v0.31 Talk:Night creature

Night creature definition

While people commonly refer to the procedural trolls and hags as night creatures, in the context of the game, night creature actually means those, the bogeymen, and the fortress mode ghosts. And in the next version, more new night creatures are arriving, at the very least necromancers, disturbed dead, werebeasts, and vampires, with possibly stalkers, Frankensteins, animated furniture, and other undead, and the animated dead being classified as night creatures as well. As such, it would make sense to me that this page could become a hub that links to, and quickly describes, the different types of night creatures.

Of course, this does become problematic with the troll/hag night creatures already described here - they'd need a new general name. Hag and troll are too specific and troll is already used. It could be derived from their raw tags, though - they use the NIGHT_CREATURE_HUNTER tag and SPOUSE_CONVERTER tag. The former doesn't lend itself very well to any kind of name, but spouse converter, while technically referring to only one of their castes, does describe the creatures reasonably well.

Thoughts?

Knight Otu 08:02, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I think Hag is a fine name for the spouse converters. Sure, it's a little specific, but it's easier to remember than "spouse converter", especially for someone new to the game who hasn't read the raws. And really, kidnap and marry people is pretty much what hags do in folklore (well, that and eat children). For trolls, just have a disambiguation page somewhere.

And this page should definitely become a hub.

Igfig 21:18, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation page for trolls sounds like a good idea. Template:L perhaps? --173.9.15.26 01:19, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I've also posted this discussion on the forums, by the way. Here's what I added there:

With those replies, my thinking now would be to make the Night creature page a hub, with a note that most people mean the hags and trolls when they say night creature, move the current content to Hag, and add a note to the troll page linking to the Hag page (something like "This page is about the ordinary, stock trolls. For the procedurally created trolls in adventure mode that abduct and transform people, see Hag"). I suppose a Spouse Converter page could exist as a redirect to Hag as well, but probably isn't necessary.

Knight Otu 18:58, 13 June 2011 (UTC)