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Kind of a poor choice of name. What makes something a sally port is that you can use it to escape your fortress-- to counterattack a besieging force. The described project doesn't do that. Should it be renamed? Maybe it should just be part of [[trap design]]? Maybe, instead, trap design should be a category with a bazillion subpages? --[[User:Vasiln|Vasiln]] ([[User talk:Vasiln|talk]]) 22:41, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | Kind of a poor choice of name. What makes something a sally port is that you can use it to escape your fortress-- to counterattack a besieging force. The described project doesn't do that. Should it be renamed? Maybe it should just be part of [[trap design]]? Maybe, instead, trap design should be a category with a bazillion subpages? --[[User:Vasiln|Vasiln]] ([[User talk:Vasiln|talk]]) 22:41, 2 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
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| + | :Yes, sally ports were used to counterattack during a siege. Why a special sally port, instead of a normal door? Because sally ports were designed as heavily fortified entrances that would not compromise the security of the fortress when open. The design in the article indeed works that way--you can open the inner bridge, march in your military, then close the inner bridge and open the outer bridge--though the raid will either be victorious or suicidal since dwarves don't understand tactical retreat. But, beyond that, in current usage a [[wikipedia:sally port|sally port]] is an entranceway with multiple, independently (and, often, remotely) controlled doors. In my opinion, that fits the design in the article quite well; however, if you have an alternate name in mind we certainly can consider a name change. [[Trap design]] is already overlong, and generally doesn't go into the level of detail that this article does. A merge would mean scrapping much of the content.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 20:15, 3 March 2014 (UTC) | ||
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Kind of a poor choice of name. What makes something a sally port is that you can use it to escape your fortress-- to counterattack a besieging force. The described project doesn't do that. Should it be renamed? Maybe it should just be part of trap design? Maybe, instead, trap design should be a category with a bazillion subpages? --Vasiln (talk) 22:41, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, sally ports were used to counterattack during a siege. Why a special sally port, instead of a normal door? Because sally ports were designed as heavily fortified entrances that would not compromise the security of the fortress when open. The design in the article indeed works that way--you can open the inner bridge, march in your military, then close the inner bridge and open the outer bridge--though the raid will either be victorious or suicidal since dwarves don't understand tactical retreat. But, beyond that, in current usage a sally port is an entranceway with multiple, independently (and, often, remotely) controlled doors. In my opinion, that fits the design in the article quite well; however, if you have an alternate name in mind we certainly can consider a name change. Trap design is already overlong, and generally doesn't go into the level of detail that this article does. A merge would mean scrapping much of the content.--Loci (talk) 20:15, 3 March 2014 (UTC)