Talk:Advanced entity position mechanics

These lines contradict eachother:

• Premature succession works in fortress mode with landholders. If a unit gets a landholdersposition and that landholder is the appointer of an yet-empty position, which is defined as succeeding from a third one, then the succession is immediately applied. The landholder himself can even be the successor of a newly created position.
• A landholder's position is, in fortress mode, not successable by a site-position or visa versa.

Needs further investigation Joostheger (talk)

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An interesting tidbit I did find, while validating some info for the variable positions (writing and running some Lua scripts for it): The FORCED_ADMINISTRATOR position of the dwarven civilization is actually used, eventhough I so far found only one instance (where the position was used). Interestingly the precedence was 100 (not 65) and was the only position of a site government belonging to a goblin civ. The site ruled was a Mountain Halls and most inhabitants were also dwarves. The other data in the position definition matched the raw-definition of the FORCED_ADMINISTRATOR (of the dwarven civ). So the token [CONQUERED_SITE] might mean that another civ conquering a site of a dwarven civ will (or might) use the forced administrator for governing that site (and not the other way round).91.49.240.46 21:10, 10 February 2026 (UTC)

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That is an interesting fact, but I doubt it still :-) My experience is that it just works. I think that FORCED_ADMINISTRATOR is also a generated position, used by other groups that have variable positions

Joostheger (talk) 08:50, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

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Well I had to create a larger world (with 250 year history) to get a few variable positions. As it turns out a FORCED_ADMINISTRATOR is used by all mayor civs, that have positions, even the tree-huggers. The dwarfs have precedence 65 for the position and all other 100 (not checked everything for the FORCED_ADMINISTRATOR). And the goblins and humans can have other site positions created afterwards, the human can even upgrade create a CUSTOM_LAW_MAKER_2 afterwards. All other vanilla races (elves and dwarves) will not get other site positions with a FORCED_ADMINISTRATOR.

ps. And yes this means that the assumption concerning the meaning of [CONQUERED_SITE] token is wrong.91.49.240.46 09:04, 12 February 2026 (UTC)

In addition: The FORCED_ADMINISTRATOR position can appoint other positions, at least if these positions are variable and created afterwards (and the civ has variable positions). But the FORCED_ADMINISTRATOR will not appoint a CUSTOM_MILITARY_STRATEGY position, if the CUSTOM_MILITARY_GOALS position was created (before the creation of the CUSTOM_MILITARY_STRATEGY position), in that case the CUSTOM_MILITARY_STRATEGY position did appoint by the CUSTOM_MILITARY_GOALS position holder. This is probably due to the higher precedence of the CUSTOM_MILITARY_GOALS position in comparison to the FORCED_ADMINISTRATOR. I do need to check the high precedence CUSTOM_OFFICIALs though, whether the reason might be something else other than precedence.91.49.240.46 10:23, 12 February 2026 (UTC)