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:::: Ramps are just floor tiles with perks; if other ramps are beside them without walls they're not 'supporting' each other, they're just two ramps that happen to be side by side. @Doctorzuber, digging ramps under rocks and boulders is fine, but if you dig under trees or stockpiles, the floor tile the obstacle is on does not disappear, so the cave-ins are not occuring because of the object falling but because there is a floor tile that has its support ramped away. Mass ramping is not a very safe way to dig in general; you really have to watch out for trees. A better way to dig an outdoor 1z pit would be to dig up-stairs underneath and then channel the whole thing out; even unconnected up-stairs will support tiles above it, and your dwarves will dig everything away from below. You still have to remove the trees, but if you mess up, there's no cave-in to deal with. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 18:42, 31 March 2010 (UTC) | :::: Ramps are just floor tiles with perks; if other ramps are beside them without walls they're not 'supporting' each other, they're just two ramps that happen to be side by side. @Doctorzuber, digging ramps under rocks and boulders is fine, but if you dig under trees or stockpiles, the floor tile the obstacle is on does not disappear, so the cave-ins are not occuring because of the object falling but because there is a floor tile that has its support ramped away. Mass ramping is not a very safe way to dig in general; you really have to watch out for trees. A better way to dig an outdoor 1z pit would be to dig up-stairs underneath and then channel the whole thing out; even unconnected up-stairs will support tiles above it, and your dwarves will dig everything away from below. You still have to remove the trees, but if you mess up, there's no cave-in to deal with. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 18:42, 31 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::: I'm sitting here testing as I edit, After a number of collapses, I canceled my dig ramp commands and stopped to clear every tree and boulder away from the targeted area. I then resumed digging ramps. so far no collapses this time. As soon as the dwarves get around to digging it I'm isolating a single boulder on a single ground tile, I intend to ramp it. I anticipate a collapse. [[User:Doctorzuber|Doctorzuber]] 18:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC) | ::::: I'm sitting here testing as I edit, After a number of collapses, I canceled my dig ramp commands and stopped to clear every tree and boulder away from the targeted area. I then resumed digging ramps. so far no collapses this time. As soon as the dwarves get around to digging it I'm isolating a single boulder on a single ground tile, I intend to ramp it. I anticipate a collapse. [[User:Doctorzuber|Doctorzuber]] 18:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC) | ||
− | ::::: | + | ::::: Note, I've also seen collapses from ramp projects indoors (it is much more rare). I suspect but cannot easily verify that if a moving dwarf or animal who happens to be standing on a tile that suddenly becomes unsupported from ramping can cause a collapse. [[User:Doctorzuber|Doctorzuber]] 18:51, 31 March 2010 (UTC) |
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