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I've not used waterwheels yet, so I'm unsure if this is the case, but couldn't you, theoretically, set up a perpetual motion machine using a waterwheel and a screw pump? | I've not used waterwheels yet, so I'm unsure if this is the case, but couldn't you, theoretically, set up a perpetual motion machine using a waterwheel and a screw pump? | ||
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I'll try get up screenshots of it or maybe a tidier one later --[[User:Lucid|Lucid]] 19:58, 31 October 2007 (EDT) | I'll try get up screenshots of it or maybe a tidier one later --[[User:Lucid|Lucid]] 19:58, 31 October 2007 (EDT) | ||
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Someone removed my edit, but the water wheel actually only requires one square of water underneath it, not three. - Sludge Man | Someone removed my edit, but the water wheel actually only requires one square of water underneath it, not three. - Sludge Man | ||
We could really use better pictures. The tileset in these screenshots is terrible, (lets use the default one) and they are very unclear. I do not understand how to build a working waterwheel after looking at this page. | We could really use better pictures. The tileset in these screenshots is terrible, (lets use the default one) and they are very unclear. I do not understand how to build a working waterwheel after looking at this page. | ||
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I removed the unclear example of a perpetual motion machine with a forum link to much clearer designs. We still need clear pictures and elaboration of the method of construction. I'll get around to it once I understand it myself, if no one beats me to it. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 15:48, 5 November 2007 (EST) | I removed the unclear example of a perpetual motion machine with a forum link to much clearer designs. We still need clear pictures and elaboration of the method of construction. I'll get around to it once I understand it myself, if no one beats me to it. --[[User:Turgid Bolk|Turgid Bolk]] 15:48, 5 November 2007 (EST) | ||
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Also how reliable are the new designs? | Also how reliable are the new designs? | ||
I checked out that link and I previously toyed with designs similar to those and found them to be excellent power generators but not true perpetual motion machines, they all lost power intermittedly for varying lengths of time. --[[User:Lucid|Lucid]] 18:30, 5 November 2007 (EST) | I checked out that link and I previously toyed with designs similar to those and found them to be excellent power generators but not true perpetual motion machines, they all lost power intermittedly for varying lengths of time. --[[User:Lucid|Lucid]] 18:30, 5 November 2007 (EST) | ||
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== Perpendicular to water flow == | == Perpendicular to water flow == | ||
Strange as it may sound, water wheels do 'not' need to be parallel to the water flow direction to work. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 16:31, 23 November 2007 (EST) | Strange as it may sound, water wheels do 'not' need to be parallel to the water flow direction to work. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 16:31, 23 November 2007 (EST) | ||
− | :This is as in real life - you can build a less efficient water wheel by putting the "buckets" at an angle - and indeed might put the "buckets" on a 360 degree pivot for some purposes[[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 07:21, 8 January 2008 (EST) | + | :This is as in real life - you can build a less efficient water wheel by putting the "buckets" at an angle - and indeed might put the "buckets" on a 360 degree pivot for some purposes.[[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 07:21, 8 January 2008 (EST) |
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===Water Flow Needed?=== | ===Water Flow Needed?=== | ||
::Actually there is no need for water flow at all. A water wheel seems to generate power even if it is built to a water body with no current (no "entry" or "exit" points). So basically the water wheel just needs to touch water and that's it. This is what I've noticed when confining a canal with floodgates at both ends. --[[User:Flaa|Flaa]] 07:47, 22 April 2008 (EDT) | ::Actually there is no need for water flow at all. A water wheel seems to generate power even if it is built to a water body with no current (no "entry" or "exit" points). So basically the water wheel just needs to touch water and that's it. This is what I've noticed when confining a canal with floodgates at both ends. --[[User:Flaa|Flaa]] 07:47, 22 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
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I was thinking that it means any water changing depth below it, but that would rule out building on a river/ocean full of 7/7 tiles. Will a waterwheel work on top of water full to the brim but supposedly "flowing" (i.e. ocean, full river)? [[User:G-Flex|G-Flex]] 8 June 2008 (EDT) | I was thinking that it means any water changing depth below it, but that would rule out building on a river/ocean full of 7/7 tiles. Will a waterwheel work on top of water full to the brim but supposedly "flowing" (i.e. ocean, full river)? [[User:G-Flex|G-Flex]] 8 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
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:I believe that right now a waterwheel will provide power as long as there is at least 4/7 water depth below it, or at least that is what has been the case in my experience, as I don't think a dead end channel would really provide any water flow yet a waterwheel will still provide power if place over one. --[[User:Elvang|Elvang]] 04:15, 8 June 2008 (EDT) | :I believe that right now a waterwheel will provide power as long as there is at least 4/7 water depth below it, or at least that is what has been the case in my experience, as I don't think a dead end channel would really provide any water flow yet a waterwheel will still provide power if place over one. --[[User:Elvang|Elvang]] 04:15, 8 June 2008 (EDT) | ||
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:::::Change of depth not needed. Putting it in a full river works. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 22:47, 20 July 2008 (EDT) | :::::Change of depth not needed. Putting it in a full river works. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 22:47, 20 July 2008 (EDT) | ||
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== Construction Key? == | == Construction Key? == | ||
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:It is a vertical axle. You should know, since you play the pseudo-ASCII version. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 22:47, 20 July 2008 (EDT) | :It is a vertical axle. You should know, since you play the pseudo-ASCII version. --[[User:Savok|Savok]] 22:47, 20 July 2008 (EDT) | ||
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would water wheels be powered by water falling down a Z axis onto a waterwheel? | would water wheels be powered by water falling down a Z axis onto a waterwheel? | ||
− | can a waterwheel be used in magma or would it burn?- | + | can a waterwheel be used in magma or would it burn? |
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::Water wheels need to be placed in a channel with water to be powered. AFAIK the channel doesn't have to be any longer than the water wheel, doesn't need water coming in nor going out. The game isn't clever enough yet... (shhh!) | ::Water wheels need to be placed in a channel with water to be powered. AFAIK the channel doesn't have to be any longer than the water wheel, doesn't need water coming in nor going out. The game isn't clever enough yet... (shhh!) | ||
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::Water wheels have to be made of wood. Any machine that has magma flow through it, if it isn't made of magma-safe material, will burn/melt. You might get a bit of power for a short time but the water wheel would burn (assuming temperature is turned on which it is by default). | ::Water wheels have to be made of wood. Any machine that has magma flow through it, if it isn't made of magma-safe material, will burn/melt. You might get a bit of power for a short time but the water wheel would burn (assuming temperature is turned on which it is by default). | ||
::To sign your name properly use the signature button on the toolbar or type "~" four times: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 21:26, 8 August 2008 (EDT) | ::To sign your name properly use the signature button on the toolbar or type "~" four times: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> [[User:GarrieIrons|GarrieIrons]] 21:26, 8 August 2008 (EDT) | ||
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