Editing User talk:The Architect

=Personal Talk=
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=Succession League=
Depending on how popular this becomes, inclusion in the bloodline namespace may be inappropriate.  I'm willing to create a new namespace for this endeavor if it pans out. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 10:32, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thank you for the tentative support. Considering that this wiki does not function as a forum, I'm not sure of the appropriate mode for response, but I hope you see this. Support so far has been quick, with 9 joining in two days, but I expect the growth to pan out around 20 and move slowly until the point that it becomes a topic of discussion and moves to be well known, when it should become a major part of the DF community. If you have the time please drop by in a few days when the interface is smoothed over and give me your opinion; learning the wiki coding is making things a little sluggish. Also, some of the functions will of course take place outside the wiki in order to reduce the amount of info clogging up space here. --[[User:The Architect|The Architect]] 10:40, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
::Not a problem.  Of course, wiki syntax is a bit of a hassle - I can't claim I have any real understanding of it myself either.  Another option is to host this on a separate webapp (that I would create for this express purpose) if it becomes large enough (say, 50 participants or so); assuming, of course, you want to take it in that direction. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 11:11, 8 October 2009 (UTC) [edit to add]:  Don't worry about space or things clogging up, the server this wiki is hosted on is more than capable of the load, and has plenty of spare resources. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 11:12, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:::It seems you made a reply while I was editing. typed more as follows: By the way, wouldn't keeping it separate now or placing it under a category with Bloodline (but not under Bloodline, seeing as those games are only one facet) such as "Multiplayer" or "Succession" prevent hassle later on? Within a few days this is likely to generate multiple extra pages as we begin games and will continue to do so as long as it exists.
:::A separate application would be great; I don't have the knowhow but some of the functions (such as ratings) would benefit from an automated program to turn the raw data to tables, and asking a large number of players to learn the wiki interface in order to arrange games with each other nearly defeats the purpose of this group for the casual player. I don't want to force you to keep moving the pages I'm making (only a couple more), so if you intend to stick it under Bloodline for now then maybe you can give me a link that will teach me to do it myself? (I get the redirect, but not creating a page under the Category)
:::And again I'm too slow to get in before your edit, telling me not to worry about space. Either way, creating this page under Bloodline and then a dozen redirect or reredirect edits could be a avoided --[[User:The Architect|The Architect]]
::::All good, to create a page under a bloodline section, type the page name like http://www.dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Bloodline:Something into your address bar and use the links provided on the blank page holder to create it.  Hopefully that made sense.  A separate category may be appropriate, but for now we'll leave it in bloodline and see how it pans out.  Ps. Where do I sign up? :V --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 11:26, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
:::::I was creating that page when you edited this. I will link it to the main page in a few seconds, and redirect/move the two, final main pages under Bloodline. --[[User:The Architect|The Architect]] 11:35, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
::::::That works for me.  --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 11:36, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
==Personal==
Thanks for cleaning up after me, including the formatting on the joining page. --[[User:The Architect|The Architect]]
:Cheers.  Any time.  I threw together a template for this too. Let me know if you like it or not. --[[User:Briess|Briess]] 19:59, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

==League Talk==
''If you would like to start a game, posting here is a very effectiive way to get attention and help. ''

:I'm prepared to run a Succession game! I've never ran a Succession game before (or actually played one!), but I've read a few and I'm not stupid (and I have access to a good FTP server for game file swapping!). How should I go about it and any advice? -- [[User:Melek|Melek]] 19:25, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

::I now HAVE started a couple of games, check my user page for more info. -- [[User:Melek|Melek]] 19:36, 4 February 2010 (UTC)


===Coding Help===
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*I plan to place templates in the various Discussion pages <s>so that players can easily add games themselves</s> (''done''), among other things.

== cages & releasing ==

  For unknown reason(s), releasing a creature from a built cage (the only kind <br />you can intentionally release them from) requires an accessible empty, unbuilt cage...

I think you're wrong, and I ''know'' a dealbreaker like this should have been posted for discussion ''before'' editing it into the article. See [[Talk:Cage#releasing_creatures]].  --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 01:35, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

:You are right, the discussion should have been my first step. I was pretty hasty, seeing how utterly incomplete the Cage page was, and failed to follow proper procedure. It's possible that I am misinterpreting the cause of the error, but I had no mods on at the time (including default init.txt), and the situation was exactly as I described it: "Zulban Ashmonkibuk, Engineer cancels Release Large Creature: need empty cage (x46)", which I used the o-menu to ignore until a new cage was completed. Before that, "Ilrod Kolol, Armorer cancels Release Large Creature: need empty cage (x60)", when transferring animals. This specifically happened with animals that had been tamed while in cages and untamed animals, and not animals purchased tame. This could lead back to the root of the newly-tamed and untamed animal trading bug. It seems real, designated "pets", aka purchased creatures, along with embarkation animals and bred animals, are handled separately at some point from creatures caught by cage traps, causing these bugs. I made a serious mistake in not noting that on the discussion page.

:Confirmation for all of the bugs/caveats added there can be found in a file I have, if you would like it. It was one of my earlier forts, and when I discovered that the Cage page lacked many important bits of information (such as the labor for moving untamed animals by job assignment!) I felt the need to update it. The other major bug, where multiple animals being assigned to a cage at one time are all designated for release immediately, and only designated to be moved to the cage one at a time, does in fact result in exactly the results posted: the creatures are released, and become free, but remain in the stock menu, assign to cage/restraint menu, and u/Creatures menu as long as they live. Forgive me for not using the button modifier for u on this talk page, but I haven't memorized it yet. The resulting errors for performing actions with them are as follows: "Dwarf cancels  Large Creature Caging: Interrupted by Cave Swallowman." (Civilian chasing freed creature and attempting to cage it) "Dwarf Cancels Small Creature Caging: Nothing to cage." (Escaped Vermin)

:As far as my failure to follow protocol, all I can do is offer an apology and not repeat the mistake. I'm sorry. --[[User:The Architect|The Architect]] 01:58, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

==Survival Game==
Squirrelloid was the winner.

==[[gem]]s==
 Have any new gems been introduced, and have gem values been verified? 
 The values of many things have changed.
Much of this type of info can be found in the RAW files, rather than waiting/hoping to encounter them in gameplay. That's where I'd start.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 20:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
:I've already verified their names, locations, and values - colors need to be checked, but I rather doubt they've changed. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)