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− | '''Cross-training''' is the process of training your civilian | + | '''Cross-training''' is the process of training your civilian dwarfs in military pursuits, or vice versa, and can offer several benefits. First and most importantly, it can be a good way of raising attributes, leading to stronger, tougher, faster dwarfs. Secondly, it provides a handy pool of recruits for when your military takes a beating or gives your civilians a halfway chance of defending themselves. Thirdly, it can provide useful replacements for when your legendary mason accidentally blunders into a troll and gets all his limbs broken. Finally, it's a more productive use of time than standing around idling. |
There is nothing saying you have to use only one of these ideas; they are all various approaches toward addressing these areas. | There is nothing saying you have to use only one of these ideas; they are all various approaches toward addressing these areas. | ||
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===Different Programs:=== | ===Different Programs:=== | ||
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− | ====Artillery proving ground ( | ||
Mass-produce some catapults, line them up near a quarry, and fire away. Works well to dispose of stone from a gulag (see below).<br> | Mass-produce some catapults, line them up near a quarry, and fire away. Works well to dispose of stone from a gulag (see below).<br> | ||
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
− | *Trains a skill that's reasonably useful, and provides a place to put all the sub-par siege engine components your | + | *Trains a skill that's reasonably useful, and provides a place to put all the sub-par siege engine components your {{L|siege engineer}} will doubtlessly create if you're going for superior-quality engines. |
*Harasses the wildlife, which is always fun.<br> | *Harasses the wildlife, which is always fun.<br> | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
*Very slow to train (2+ years for legendary). | *Very slow to train (2+ years for legendary). | ||
*Fairly space-consuming to set up a well-designed and usable proving ground. | *Fairly space-consuming to set up a well-designed and usable proving ground. | ||
− | *Can be dangerous depending on the biome (especially when | + | *Can be dangerous depending on the biome (especially when {{L|elephant}}s are present. If they get winged by a stray boulder, you can bet they're going to be coming straight at you). |
− | * | + | *{{L|Siege operator}}s are civilians, and will run in fear when an enemy approaches them. |
+ | *Artillery has been nerfed as of DF2010{{verify}} and so training siege operators may not be so useful | ||
− | ====Internship MkII ( | + | ====Internship ({{L|bookkeeper}})==== |
+ | Turn on highest precision bookkeeping and rotate the appointed noble in and out the second he becomes a legendary bookkeeper.<br> | ||
+ | '''Pros:''' | ||
+ | *Requires no extra infrastructure at all. | ||
+ | *You need a bookkeeper anyway! | ||
+ | *Totally safe; a bookkeeper spends basically all his discretionary time snug in his office. | ||
+ | *Trains outrageously fast; if the office is very close to {{L|food}}, {{L|beds}}, and {{L|drink}}, a bookkeeper can be legendary or close to it in a mere season.<br> | ||
+ | '''Cons:''' | ||
+ | *Only employs one dwarf at a time; not useful when you have 15-25 candidates for the reserves. | ||
+ | *No announcement when the current intern reaches Legendary status means you can lose time on rotation easily. | ||
+ | *Legendary bookkeepers might leave their successor without work, losing work and experience. | ||
+ | *Is arguably an {{L|exploit}}; some players may want to avoid it on principle. | ||
+ | *Produce little to no useful attribute gains. | ||
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+ | ====Internship MkII ({{L|manager}})==== | ||
Much like bookkeeping, assign a new dwarf to manager, queue several hundred jobs, and rotate a replacement in as soon as he becomes legendary. For bonus points, queue jobs which need to be repeated anyway, like "Prepare Raw Fish" or "Mill Plants", or jobs for which there is no workshop, like "Make Wooden Bow" or "Make Soap".<br> | Much like bookkeeping, assign a new dwarf to manager, queue several hundred jobs, and rotate a replacement in as soon as he becomes legendary. For bonus points, queue jobs which need to be repeated anyway, like "Prepare Raw Fish" or "Mill Plants", or jobs for which there is no workshop, like "Make Wooden Bow" or "Make Soap".<br> | ||
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
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*You need a manager anyway! | *You need a manager anyway! | ||
*Mostly safe; a manager spends basically all his discretionary time snug in his office, or doing his other assigned jobs. | *Mostly safe; a manager spends basically all his discretionary time snug in his office, or doing his other assigned jobs. | ||
+ | *Trains fairly quickly; with enough jobs, especially ones which need to be repeated anyway, you can get legendary inside two seasons.<br> | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
*Only employs one dwarf at a time; not useful when you have 15-25 candidates for the reserves. | *Only employs one dwarf at a time; not useful when you have 15-25 candidates for the reserves. | ||
*No announcement when the current intern reaches Legendary status means you can lose time on rotation easily. | *No announcement when the current intern reaches Legendary status means you can lose time on rotation easily. | ||
+ | *Trains more slowly than bookkeeper, requiring roughly 60 lots of 30 jobs to reach legendary, and 40 more to Legendary+5. | ||
*Produces little to no useful attribute gains | *Produces little to no useful attribute gains | ||
− | ====Gulag ( | + | ====Gulag ({{L|miner}})==== |
− | The gulag is basically a strip mine that is located far away from your main fortress (so you don't have to worry about accidentally screwing up your own building plans; if you are careful in planning, it may be placed closer to your fortress). Take a big square and start leveling it; it's really no more complicated than that. Since | + | The gulag is basically a strip mine that is located far away from your main fortress (so you don't have to worry about accidentally screwing up your own building plans; if you are careful in planning, it may be placed closer to your fortress). Take a big square and start leveling it; it's really no more complicated than that. Since {{L|pick}}s can actually be used as weapons, it's worthwhile to give the reservists who will be working in the gulag picks made out of {{L|iron}}, or, if you are really living large, {{L|steel}}. Note that you will have to turn your usual mining corps (the civilian miners who are already experienced with mining) off for this setup to work properly.<br> |
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
*Soldiers can be equipped with picks from the military skill, and use the Miner skill in combat - militia squads of highly-skilled miners can provide a decent defence from early threats | *Soldiers can be equipped with picks from the military skill, and use the Miner skill in combat - militia squads of highly-skilled miners can provide a decent defence from early threats | ||
− | *Toting a pick for close-quarters support might make a legendary | + | *Toting a pick for close-quarters support might make a legendary {{L|marksdwarf}} more useful, since the pathetic bludgeon damage of his {{L|wood}} and {{L|bone}} {{L|crossbows}} are less important. |
*Can be quite useful for producing stones you might not have access to normally, or uncovering veins of precious metals. | *Can be quite useful for producing stones you might not have access to normally, or uncovering veins of precious metals. | ||
*Levels quite fast in sand. | *Levels quite fast in sand. | ||
*Relatively little oversight from you. | *Relatively little oversight from you. | ||
− | *An overland hike to the gulag will fight | + | *An overland hike to the gulag will fight {{L|cave adaptation}} in your military candidates. |
− | *Can easily be transformed into a | + | *Can easily be transformed into a {{L|Tower-cap#Underground_tree_farms|tower-cap farm}} on suitable maps, providing a safe and replenishable wood source.<br> |
− | + | *Good way of training "hard" attributes like strength or toughness | |
− | * | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
*Juggling your real miners and your reservists when there's real work to be done on the fort can be a chore. | *Juggling your real miners and your reservists when there's real work to be done on the fort can be a chore. | ||
− | *Hard to keep dwarves in the gulag for too long; they'll inevitably get hungry, thirsty, and tired and start hiking back to the fortress proper | + | *Hard to keep dwarves in the gulag for too long; they'll inevitably get hungry, thirsty, and tired and start hiking back to the fortress proper. |
*Can be dangerous, depending on the biome. | *Can be dangerous, depending on the biome. | ||
*Does require some amount of oversight from you, especially when your reservists start getting better at mining and run out of work more quickly. | *Does require some amount of oversight from you, especially when your reservists start getting better at mining and run out of work more quickly. | ||
*Low-skill miners may discover---and then partially destroy---valuable gem or mineral deposits. | *Low-skill miners may discover---and then partially destroy---valuable gem or mineral deposits. | ||
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− | ====Renovation ( | + | ====Renovation ({{L|stone detailing}})==== |
− | Another convenient way to buff up your dwarves, assigning your reservists to mass | + | Another convenient way to buff up your dwarves, assigning your reservists to mass {{L|stone detailing}} duty increases your fortress' architectural wealth and makes the place look nicer. While they may clutter the halls somewhat, it doesn't require any special allocation of {{L|food}}, {{L|beds}} or {{L|drink}}. Just turn on {{L|stone detailing}} for your reservists and mark up as much of the fortress as you like for renovation.<br> |
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
*Even easier to set up; just assign your dwarves and an area and you're good to go. | *Even easier to set up; just assign your dwarves and an area and you're good to go. | ||
*Increases your fortress' value and general happiness. | *Increases your fortress' value and general happiness. | ||
*Requires no continuous oversight on your part. | *Requires no continuous oversight on your part. | ||
− | *Very safe, if you only assign areas inside the fortress. | + | *Very safe, if you only assign areas inside the fortress.<br> |
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | *Wealth overflow may bring too many | + | *Wealth overflow may bring too many {{L|immigrants}}. |
− | *Serious conflict with | + | *Serious conflict with {{L|engraving}} assignments; trying to engrave with poorly trained engravers wastes a lot of wealth that essentially comes from nothing. To avoid this, have periods when you only designate stone smoothing, followed by periods where you only designate engraving. |
− | *Careless designation of smoothing areas may have your dwarves trying to smooth walls too close to | + | *Careless designation of smoothing areas may have your dwarves trying to smooth walls too close to {{L|magma}} or a {{L|river}}. |
− | + | *If you smooth and engrave all your bedrooms, many dwarves will not be able to afford them once the {{L|Dwarven economy}} kicks in. This is unlikely to be relevant until the economy starts working again (not working as of v0.31.12) | |
− | *If you smooth and engrave all your bedrooms, many dwarves will not be able to afford them once the | ||
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− | ====Sweatshop ( | + | ====Sweatshop ({{L|mason}})==== |
− | Make one or more [[mason's workshop]]s in an area with a bunch of junk stone you don't care about, or that you're actively looking to clear. Change the workshop settings to allow only your reservists to use it, then tell the workshop to churn out crafts, junk furniture, stone blocks, and trade goods that you can trade en-masse. Alternatively, forbid your reservists from working in your real mason's workshops, order lots of stone constructions built, and pray that your real masons stay too occupied with the workshops to intrude. Works well in conjunction with a gulag. Alternate ideas for sweatshops include a [[mechanic's workshop]], [[craftsdwarf's workshop | + | Make one or more [[mason's workshop]]s in an area with a bunch of junk stone you don't care about, or that you're actively looking to clear. Change the workshop settings to allow only your reservists to use it, then tell the workshop to churn out crafts, junk furniture, stone blocks, and trade goods that you can trade en-masse. Alternatively, forbid your reservists from working in your real mason's workshops, order lots of stone constructions built, and pray that your real masons stay too occupied with the workshops to intrude. Works well in conjunction with a gulag. Alternate ideas for sweatshops include a [[mechanic's workshop]], [[craftsdwarf's workshop]], or a [[magma glass furnace]] to train [[mechanic]], [[stonecrafter]], and [[glassmaker]] respectively. ''Note: Do NOT try this with the {{L|carpenter}} skill, or any other resource you don't have in near-limitless abundance. Sweatshops will consume huge amounts of their associated resources, and if you run out mid-way you have probably wasted your time. This includes {{L|coke}} or {{L|charcoal}} used in the normal (non-magma) {{L|glass furnace}}.''<br> |
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
− | *Quantitatively turns a profit. The inferior trade goods can be dumped on the next caravan for more useful commodities like bags, seeds, and logs. Logs are especially useful, since you'll inevitably stamp out lots of bins to support the trade good output. | + | *Quantitatively turns a profit. The inferior trade goods can be dumped on the next caravan for more useful commodities like bags, seeds, and logs. Logs are especially useful, since you'll inevitably stamp out lots of bins to support the trade good output. |
*Mass-producing blocks makes your constructions higher value. | *Mass-producing blocks makes your constructions higher value. | ||
− | *Unlike many other training programs, Sweatshops train a skill that is very useful. | + | *Unlike many other training programs, Sweatshops train a skill that is very useful.<br> |
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
*Slow to level. | *Slow to level. | ||
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*Note also that stone blocks cannot be made into furniture or stone crafts. This may or may not be an issue depending on where you're putting your gulag. | *Note also that stone blocks cannot be made into furniture or stone crafts. This may or may not be an issue depending on where you're putting your gulag. | ||
− | ====Dwarf Powered Mill ( | + | ====Dwarf Powered Mill ({{L|grower}},{{L|cook}},{{L|miller}})==== |
− | Start off by creating a surplus of | + | Start off by creating a surplus of {{L|longland grass}}, {{L|cave wheat}}, and/or {{L|whip vine}} and some bags. Create multiple {{L|quern}} all close to the food stockpile which contains the millable plants. Next to this area make a {{L|kitchen}} assigned to an experienced cook. Enable milling for the dwarves you wish to cross-train and order the cook to make lavish meals. As long as your growers provide a steady supply of millable plants and your cook can empty out bags quick enough, the milling jobs will continue.<br> |
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
*Produces a lot of wealth as flour is a high value ingredient | *Produces a lot of wealth as flour is a high value ingredient | ||
*Produces high amounts of food | *Produces high amounts of food | ||
− | *Sustains the training of non cross-training dwarves such as the cook and growers | + | *Sustains the training of non cross-training dwarves such as the cook and growers<br> |
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
*Requires a surplus of millable plants to ensure continuous milling, thus you may need to increase the number of plots/growers | *Requires a surplus of millable plants to ensure continuous milling, thus you may need to increase the number of plots/growers | ||
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====Clear Cutting==== | ====Clear Cutting==== | ||
− | As long as wood hauling is turned off, dwarves will move from one tree to the next without stopping to bring the wood back. On a heavily forested map, this means that dedicated wood cutters can skill up very quickly. | + | As long as wood hauling is turned off, dwarves will move from one tree to the next without stopping to bring the wood back. On a heavily forested map, this means that dedicated wood cutters can skill up very quickly.<br> |
− | + | Of course, this training strategy isn't going endear you with the elves.<br> | |
− | Of course, this training strategy isn't going endear you with the elves. | ||
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
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*Can cause problems with elves | *Can cause problems with elves | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | *Can cause problems with elves | + | *<s>Can cause problems with elves</s> |
*Map dependent | *Map dependent | ||
*Unless care is taken to only designate a small area for cutting, trainees and haulers can be spread out across the map while, making them vulnerable to creatures and ambushes. | *Unless care is taken to only designate a small area for cutting, trainees and haulers can be spread out across the map while, making them vulnerable to creatures and ambushes. | ||
− | ==== | + | ====Dorf Scouts ({{L|ambusher}}, {{L|hunter}}, {{L|marksdwarf}})==== |
Marksdwarves are an important part of any military. A bum rush of low level marksdwarves is good, but not as effective as an elite backup squad! Here is what you can do: | Marksdwarves are an important part of any military. A bum rush of low level marksdwarves is good, but not as effective as an elite backup squad! Here is what you can do: | ||
Draft a comfortable amount of dwarves to hunting, give them all cheap crossbows. Your dwarves should hunt as usual. But you are really training an elite squad of assassins, that will one day hunt goblins instead of groundhogs. | Draft a comfortable amount of dwarves to hunting, give them all cheap crossbows. Your dwarves should hunt as usual. But you are really training an elite squad of assassins, that will one day hunt goblins instead of groundhogs. | ||
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*Not as economically productive as some other methods. | *Not as economically productive as some other methods. | ||
− | ====Charm School ( | + | ====Charm School ({{L|social skills}})==== |
<i>(Note: Inspired by [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=47533.0 milaga's Real Wagon experiment], details of this technique are still being investigated.)</i> | <i>(Note: Inspired by [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=47533.0 milaga's Real Wagon experiment], details of this technique are still being investigated.)</i> | ||
− | This approach is less useful in the new version, as social skills will only produce "Soul" attribute gains. However, teaching your | + | This approach is less useful in the new version, as social skills will only produce "Soul" attribute gains. However, teaching your dwarfs social skills is useful for training replacement Brokers, and can possibly reduce the chances of tantrums in the fort (more dwarfs with high Consoler and Pacifier skill). |
Set up a small space with food, booze, and a few beds/chairs/tables, stashing your new immigrants in it, and locking the door for a few seasons. (Be sure to turn off all of their labors and designate it as a meeting place.) With no labors enabled and nothing to do, they'll chat and party and quickly buff up their comedian, flatterer, conversationalist, &c. skills. | Set up a small space with food, booze, and a few beds/chairs/tables, stashing your new immigrants in it, and locking the door for a few seasons. (Be sure to turn off all of their labors and designate it as a meeting place.) With no labors enabled and nothing to do, they'll chat and party and quickly buff up their comedian, flatterer, conversationalist, &c. skills. | ||
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | *dwarves gain no professional skills during this time | + | *dwarves gain no professional skills during this time |
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*produces no trade goods or useful items for the fortress | *produces no trade goods or useful items for the fortress | ||
− | *produces many romances and tight-knit friendships, which | + | *produces many romances and tight-knit friendships, which {{L|Tantrum#Tantrum Spiral|put you at risk}} of suddenly having lots of {{L|losing#General Unhappiness|Fun}} |
*inter-dwarf personality conflicts can produce early misery and tantrums. This can be prevented with quality furniture and food, and the risk is eliminated once friendships and relationships are formed and producing happy thoughts. | *inter-dwarf personality conflicts can produce early misery and tantrums. This can be prevented with quality furniture and food, and the risk is eliminated once friendships and relationships are formed and producing happy thoughts. | ||
*unless the entrance and path from the exterior are carefully set up, you will probably have to draft new dwarves and station them in the charm school to move them there; this will produce an unhappy thought that can exacerbate the early period of tension | *unless the entrance and path from the exterior are carefully set up, you will probably have to draft new dwarves and station them in the charm school to move them there; this will produce an unhappy thought that can exacerbate the early period of tension | ||
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''Note: with the new military system, proper self-defense training is somewhat more complicated to set up, but allows much more effective reservist training once it's running. Make sure you're familiar with the [[Scheduling]] system before attempting this.'' | ''Note: with the new military system, proper self-defense training is somewhat more complicated to set up, but allows much more effective reservist training once it's running. Make sure you're familiar with the [[Scheduling]] system before attempting this.'' | ||
− | This is the process of training all your civilians in a basic military skill - or at least, most of them. Any time a dwarf is activated into the military, and they do not have at least Novice level in some combat skill, they get a bad thought. The easiest way to do this is to assign every new [[migrant]] to dedicated training | + | This is the process of training all your civilians in a basic military skill - or at least, most of them. Any time a dwarf is activated into the military, and they do not have at least Novice level in some combat skill, they get a bad thought. The easiest way to do this is to assign every new [[migrant]] to dedicated training {{L|squad|squads}}, and assign that squad a barracks. Then, schedule these squads to Train one or more months in the year, and set all other months to "No Scheduled Order". Then go to the Squads menu and set the squad to "Active/Training". One month in six or one month in 12 will ensure skills don't get too rusty, as well as ensuring all dwarfs reach a basic level in soldiering. It is worth setting the "Train" order in the schedule to less than 10 minimum; this allows dwarfs to take time out to eat, drink, sleep... |
− | Then, if they ever get caught where they don't want to be (maybe they bump into a thief coming around a corner, or a flying critter jumps them, or you need to urgently order them out of the path of a magma flood, or send them to the | + | Then, if they ever get caught where they don't want to be (maybe they bump into a thief coming around a corner, or a flying critter jumps them, or you need to urgently order them out of the path of a magma flood, or send them to the {{L|control room}} - anything), not only can you activate them with no bad thoughts, but every dwarf has a better chance at not-dying - which can only be a good thing. Moreover, idle dwarfs will now go to "Individual Combat Drill" rather than standing around timewasting. |
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+ | Note: if you're feeling cheap, training squads can be set to "No Uniform". This will teach wrestling. However, it's probably a better idea to churn out some training weapons, wooden shields, and leather armour - this will ensure minimal sparring injuries, as well as teaching shield user and armour user. | ||
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+ | '''Pros:''' | ||
+ | *works on any map | ||
+ | *easy to set up | ||
+ | *trains many dwarves at once | ||
+ | *requires almost zero player oversight once set up | ||
+ | *provides a ready supply of recruits for the military | ||
+ | *likely to give useful attribute gains | ||
+ | *idle dwarfs no longer get the chance to socialise and make friends, reducing the chance of tantrum spirals | ||
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+ | '''Cons:''' | ||
+ | *dwarves gain no professional skills during this time | ||
+ | *produces no trade goods or useful items for the fortress | ||
+ | *produces negative thoughts at the outset (drafting) | ||
+ | *can take dwarfs out of civilian circulation unexpectedly, interrupting crucial projects | ||
+ | *headache to set up, especially with large forts | ||
+ | *requires production of training equipment, using up materials that could be used elsewhere | ||
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===Overview=== | ===Overview=== | ||
− | *The charm school can cross-train many dwarves in | + | *The charm school can cross-train many dwarves in less a year, but produces no useful items, trade wealth, or professional skills. The method is also still being refined and potential pitfalls may still be uncovered. It is considerably less useful in DF2010, as it no longer produces physical attribute gains |
*Artillery training can give you some siege operators, which will be useful if you have ballistae. | *Artillery training can give you some siege operators, which will be useful if you have ballistae. | ||
− | *The internship only trains up one dwarf at a time. Your stocks could also lag behind if you are unlucky. | + | *The internship is very fast, but only trains up one dwarf at a time. Your stocks could also lag behind if you are unlucky. |
*The gulag requires planning, and your dwarves in the fortress proper may run all the way to the gulag to grab a stone for some crafts, a chair, etc. It does, however, train your dwarves in mining quickly, which is always a useful skill. | *The gulag requires planning, and your dwarves in the fortress proper may run all the way to the gulag to grab a stone for some crafts, a chair, etc. It does, however, train your dwarves in mining quickly, which is always a useful skill. | ||
*Renovation is hands-free, but may bloat your fortress wealth too quickly. | *Renovation is hands-free, but may bloat your fortress wealth too quickly. | ||
*The sweatshop creates a large amount of goods, which can be traded away to keep traders happy. It also increases your wealth by quite a lot, which can be good or bad depending upon your situation. The goods are also difficult to manage. | *The sweatshop creates a large amount of goods, which can be traded away to keep traders happy. It also increases your wealth by quite a lot, which can be good or bad depending upon your situation. The goods are also difficult to manage. | ||
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− | Note that the artillery training and internship don't take away | + | Note that the gym, artillery training, and internship don't take away {{L|strange mood}} potential (you can give those dwarves dabbling in anything you want and that's how they'll get theirs), while the gulag, renovation, and sweatshop do. |
{{Military FAQ}} | {{Military FAQ}} | ||
− | {{Category|Military}} | + | {{Category|Military| }} |
{{Category|Fortress defense}} | {{Category|Fortress defense}} |