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I get that this is what the 40d article was called, but wouldn't 'Forging Guide' or something similar be better? The current one is awkwardly titled and uses improper grammar anyway (Mak''ing'' your own weapons would be proper). IMO redirecting this to a new Forging Guide page would be better, and with the new version out, right now is the most appropriate time to do so. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 01:27, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | I get that this is what the 40d article was called, but wouldn't 'Forging Guide' or something similar be better? The current one is awkwardly titled and uses improper grammar anyway (Mak''ing'' your own weapons would be proper). IMO redirecting this to a new Forging Guide page would be better, and with the new version out, right now is the most appropriate time to do so. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 01:27, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
− | :I'm not even sure of the necessity of this article. [[ | + | :I'm not even sure of the necessity of this article. [[DF2010:Weapon]] would probably be a better place for it. Guides should only be made if there is sufficient information that it would clog up the main page on the subject, like bedroom designs. --[[User:Mikaka|Mikaka]] 01:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC) |
− | ::I vote we just redirect this to [[ | + | ::I vote we just redirect this to [[DF2010:Weapon]] for now, and put all the info there. --[[User:Eagle0600|Eagle0600]] 01:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC) |
:::I do see the use of the article (mostly the old one) as a guide - see the [[40d:Make_your_own_weapons|40d version of it]] for what I mean. If it were retitled, cleaned up, and adapted to include blacksmithing and armorsmithing I could definitely see its use as a more heavily-detailed 'forging guide.' The 'metalsmith's forge' page seems too much about the workshop than its purpose to put it there though. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 01:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | :::I do see the use of the article (mostly the old one) as a guide - see the [[40d:Make_your_own_weapons|40d version of it]] for what I mean. If it were retitled, cleaned up, and adapted to include blacksmithing and armorsmithing I could definitely see its use as a more heavily-detailed 'forging guide.' The 'metalsmith's forge' page seems too much about the workshop than its purpose to put it there though. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 01:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::::The title is awkward, agreed, but, sim to the Non-Dwarf's Guide to Rock, it's not a "tier one" article, it's a specialty topic, narrowly focused to one purpose, and expanding on several indirectly associated tier-one concepts. The fact that axes are now less expensive (17 for a wood one!) doesn't mean that it's not useful to the new player. Reworking it to a "Forging Guide" is a great idea imo - better name, more widely applicable, and the current specific material can be a subsection. Take the basic concept and have (sub)subsections (or just a table) on chains, anvils, armor - every commonly needed metal item, w/ what is needed re raw materials and skill. Use "forge an axe" as a step-by-step example, and I think it's a winner. --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 20:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | ::::The title is awkward, agreed, but, sim to the Non-Dwarf's Guide to Rock, it's not a "tier one" article, it's a specialty topic, narrowly focused to one purpose, and expanding on several indirectly associated tier-one concepts. The fact that axes are now less expensive (17 for a wood one!) doesn't mean that it's not useful to the new player. Reworking it to a "Forging Guide" is a great idea imo - better name, more widely applicable, and the current specific material can be a subsection. Take the basic concept and have (sub)subsections (or just a table) on chains, anvils, armor - every commonly needed metal item, w/ what is needed re raw materials and skill. Use "forge an axe" as a step-by-step example, and I think it's a winner. --[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 20:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::Cool beans. I'm interested in this, so I'll give it a shot sometime after the weekend, probably Monday. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 20:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | :::::Cool beans. I'm interested in this, so I'll give it a shot sometime after the weekend, probably Monday. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 20:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
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