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== Lets improve this article == | == Lets improve this article == | ||
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::Vampires' attributes are frozen. Vampires continue to gain (and lose) skill. --[[User:Vasiln|Vasiln]] 00:17, 6 March 2012 (UTC) | ::Vampires' attributes are frozen. Vampires continue to gain (and lose) skill. --[[User:Vasiln|Vasiln]] 00:17, 6 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
::This is info from the first patch, but I imagine it hasn't been changed. Vampires don't drink but are still alcohol dependent. This is reflected in the article by mentioning that "s/he really needs a drink", and is because they haven't had any alcohol since they entered your fort. I'm pretty sure this results in the vampire being an immensely poor worker despite never needing to stop to eat/drink. I noticed that a vampire that was jailed and then isolated into a sealed off area became perpetually tired; I think this might be unrelated to the sobriety but I'm not sure. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 18:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC) | ::This is info from the first patch, but I imagine it hasn't been changed. Vampires don't drink but are still alcohol dependent. This is reflected in the article by mentioning that "s/he really needs a drink", and is because they haven't had any alcohol since they entered your fort. I'm pretty sure this results in the vampire being an immensely poor worker despite never needing to stop to eat/drink. I noticed that a vampire that was jailed and then isolated into a sealed off area became perpetually tired; I think this might be unrelated to the sobriety but I'm not sure. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 18:50, 20 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
− | :::34.07 - a weak vampire came as an immigrant, i made him a miner - now he is mighty (as written in v mode). In adv. mode 34.07 i also managed to become a vamp flom almost very start: powerlevelling as a vampire also worked perfectly, all the stats increased the same way as if my hero was a non-vamp. The single bad thing in adv.mode is that vamp has a speed-cap of about 1300, even if an elf with maxed 2k speed becomes a vamp, the speed is instantly set to a vamp's cap of ~1300. (there are three exact constant cap's depending on the race, yet all are 1300+- | + | :::34.07 - a weak vampire came as an immigrant, i made him a miner - now he is mighty (as written in v mode). In adv. mode 34.07 i also managed to become a vamp flom almost very start: powerlevelling as a vampire also worked perfectly, all the stats increased the same way as if my hero was a non-vamp. The single bad thing in adv.mode is that vamp has a speed-cap of about 1300, even if an elf with maxed 2k speed becomes a vamp, the speed is instantly set to a vamp's cap of ~1300. (there are three exact constant cap's depending on the race, yet all are 1300+-) |
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Do you mean sobriety from booze or blood? --[[User:Headjack|Headjack]] | Do you mean sobriety from booze or blood? --[[User:Headjack|Headjack]] | ||
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: I had a vampire who had a wife in my fort. They also had a children. However, according legends, it seems that vampire was married and got children before he was cursed to be a vampire. His child was not vampire. [[Special:Contributions/80.247.245.72|80.247.245.72]] 13:51, 26 February 2012 (UTC) | : I had a vampire who had a wife in my fort. They also had a children. However, according legends, it seems that vampire was married and got children before he was cursed to be a vampire. His child was not vampire. [[Special:Contributions/80.247.245.72|80.247.245.72]] 13:51, 26 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
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--Hey, could someone confirm this for me? I'm finding that vampires cant display custom profession or nicknames given to them. Its happening on my end but I wanna get someone else to back this up; it might be the best way to CSI yet. | --Hey, could someone confirm this for me? I'm finding that vampires cant display custom profession or nicknames given to them. Its happening on my end but I wanna get someone else to back this up; it might be the best way to CSI yet. | ||
[[User:Headjack|Headjack]] 08:34, 22 February 2012 (UTC) | [[User:Headjack|Headjack]] 08:34, 22 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
:It is true. However, it will also be fixed in the next version. [[User:Knight Otu|Knight Otu]] 10:52, 22 February 2012 (UTC) | :It is true. However, it will also be fixed in the next version. [[User:Knight Otu|Knight Otu]] 10:52, 22 February 2012 (UTC) | ||
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Just a quick note about the "He has the appearance of someone (x) years old and is among the first of his kind" line. I don't know firsthand how useful this is for vampire ID in general, but in a world with a very short history, any dwarf older than the world will have this line for their age. So, for example, I've got a fortress in year 8 of its world, so any dwarf older than 8 years old has this. This caused me to briefly worry that I had an all-vamp fort before I figured it out. 19:00 9 April 2012 (UTC) | Just a quick note about the "He has the appearance of someone (x) years old and is among the first of his kind" line. I don't know firsthand how useful this is for vampire ID in general, but in a world with a very short history, any dwarf older than the world will have this line for their age. So, for example, I've got a fortress in year 8 of its world, so any dwarf older than 8 years old has this. This caused me to briefly worry that I had an all-vamp fort before I figured it out. 19:00 9 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
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== Melancholy == | == Melancholy == | ||
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I just got my first vamp (I think he's the first one...) and he was identified completely by accident. | I just got my first vamp (I think he's the first one...) and he was identified completely by accident. | ||
All of a sudden I got a message that "Stodir Keskalosir, Dwarf Butcher vampire cancels..." Although I'd not noticed it before, he does appear by that name and title in the unit listings now, and he also has his night creature tile. He has not attacked anyone yet, my fort has 0 dead dorfs and 0 missing ones. I do have Dwarf Therapist and DFHack, so one of those may explain why he was auto-revealed. His name does match the one shown in Therapist, notably. I did discover a method to flush out vamps, though. His details indicate that he is 98 years old, born in the year 7. Its currently year 252. So he's lying about almost a hundred and fifty years, roughly an entire normal dorf's lifespan. If someone can verify it, let's add "has a mismatched birth year and age combination" to the methods of catching one. In other news, I'm planning a vampire work pit: A small pit, with a level above and a level below. Raw materials are dumped into the top, the vamp(s) inside process them, then dump them back down the other side for retrieval. --[[User:Waladil|Waladil]] 21:17, 10 March 2012 (UTC) | All of a sudden I got a message that "Stodir Keskalosir, Dwarf Butcher vampire cancels..." Although I'd not noticed it before, he does appear by that name and title in the unit listings now, and he also has his night creature tile. He has not attacked anyone yet, my fort has 0 dead dorfs and 0 missing ones. I do have Dwarf Therapist and DFHack, so one of those may explain why he was auto-revealed. His name does match the one shown in Therapist, notably. I did discover a method to flush out vamps, though. His details indicate that he is 98 years old, born in the year 7. Its currently year 252. So he's lying about almost a hundred and fifty years, roughly an entire normal dorf's lifespan. If someone can verify it, let's add "has a mismatched birth year and age combination" to the methods of catching one. In other news, I'm planning a vampire work pit: A small pit, with a level above and a level below. Raw materials are dumped into the top, the vamp(s) inside process them, then dump them back down the other side for retrieval. --[[User:Waladil|Waladil]] 21:17, 10 March 2012 (UTC) | ||
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== Breathless == | == Breathless == | ||
− | Playing as a vampire adventurer, I'm noticing a few things that the article doesn't mention. For one, my vamp doesn't need to breathe. At all. He can go as deep underwater as needed and never starts to drown. Would this mean they're good candidates for killing toxin-breathing creatures? Also, whenever I swam a long time as a non-vamp, I'd inevitably freeze to death. As a vamp (After I pissed off the only major civ on a continent...) I swam to another continent, swimming for a full day, roughly from sunrise to sunset. He's also never been tired, even in during one of his several massacres. So I looked up the raws: NOEXERT: NOPAIN: NOBREATHE: NOSTUN: NONAUSEA: NO_DIZZINESS: NO_FEVERS: PARALYZEIMMUNE: NO_EAT: NO_DRINK: NO_SLEEP: NO_PHYS_ATT_GAIN: NO_PHYS_ATT_RUST: START: 0] | + | Playing as a vampire adventurer, I'm noticing a few things that the article doesn't mention. For one, my vamp doesn't need to breathe. At all. He can go as deep underwater as needed and never starts to drown. Would this mean they're good candidates for killing toxin-breathing creatures? Also, whenever I swam a long time as a non-vamp, I'd inevitably freeze to death. As a vamp (After I pissed off the only major civ on a continent...) I swam to another continent, swimming for a full day, roughly from sunrise to sunset. He's also never been tired, even in during one of his several massacres. So I looked up the raws: NOEXERT:NOPAIN:NOBREATHE:NOSTUN:NONAUSEA:NO_DIZZINESS:NO_FEVERS:PARALYZEIMMUNE:NO_EAT:NO_DRINK:NO_SLEEP:NO_PHYS_ATT_GAIN:NO_PHYS_ATT_RUST:START:0] |
So they cannot get tired, cannot feel pain, don't breathe (As I discovered), can't be stunned, made nauseous, feel dizzy, get fevers, be paralyzed... so they're pretty much perfect candidates for fighting random Forgotten Beasts that emit those gases. Of course, that NO_PHYS_ATT_GAIN is pretty annoying. <mods it out>. Much better. --[[User:Waladil|Waladil]] 22:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC) | So they cannot get tired, cannot feel pain, don't breathe (As I discovered), can't be stunned, made nauseous, feel dizzy, get fevers, be paralyzed... so they're pretty much perfect candidates for fighting random Forgotten Beasts that emit those gases. Of course, that NO_PHYS_ATT_GAIN is pretty annoying. <mods it out>. Much better. --[[User:Waladil|Waladil]] 22:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
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[[User:Webkilla|webkillal]] - may 6th 2012 | [[User:Webkilla|webkillal]] - may 6th 2012 | ||
:These sorts of things are better placed on the forums. But yes, that would work. Make him an office and make him your manager and bookkeeper, and he'll be useful too. A floodgate would require someone be alive to pull it, so I would drop a pick in there too, so he can dig himself out if he's the last man standing. | :These sorts of things are better placed on the forums. But yes, that would work. Make him an office and make him your manager and bookkeeper, and he'll be useful too. A floodgate would require someone be alive to pull it, so I would drop a pick in there too, so he can dig himself out if he's the last man standing. | ||
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