User talk:Zippy

Images

Glad to see you're able to edit now. I wanted to make you aware that you added File:Humansprev.png to the v0.34:Human page, which is from an older DF version. You'll usually want to make sure to edit the newest one (currently "DF2014"), but feel free to edit older ones too, of course.

Also - are these images you created? The "some website" that was selected for the license in File:Humansprev.png, File:Dragonprev.png, and File:Elf_preview.jpg concerns me a bit. If you made these images yourself, that's fine, but otherwise, providing attribution helps avoid issues.

If you want to use images that are on WikiMedia Commons, then you actually don't have to upload them to this wiki to use them (in fact, please don't, because there's no point in us rehosting them). I'm not seeing your recent images on there, though, so that's more of a note for future reference. —Lethosor (talk) 20:46, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Do I have your permission to spice up some of the templates of tables? I could make some look better and "cleaner" than they do now. - Zippy (talk) 15:28, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Which tables are you thinking of? IMO consistency is good, but some are likely using an older style. As for changing the default look of the wiki, I haven't put much thought into that. The upcoming upgrade does look slightly different, and you can see an example here, but that's mostly just some font changes in the newer Mediawiki version. If you know CSS, you can test out your own changes at Special:Mypage/common.css if you like. —Lethosor (talk) 01:45, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Sorry but I'm not seeing much of a difference of that cat page. - Zippy (talk) 10:18, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Reuploading images

You mentioned an issue with reuploading images here. I finally got around to testing this, and uploading something different on File:Strangechasm.PNG worked for me. How big was the image you were trying to upload? Does it work now? —Lethosor (talk) 00:46, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, file re-uploading works now. So far. I also finally fixed the creature list by making the "Courier New" font the "priority font". Does the list look okay to you? If I broke something, I'll gladly change it all back. You can also revert whatever change *you* made, if you want. -- Zippy (talk) 03:35, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Weird, I'm pretty sure we didn't change anything, but glad it works now. The creature table looks fine to me too - thanks for handling that. —Lethosor (talk) 22:47, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Are you comfortable changing the main CSS so the links appear as different colors? I changed my personal CSS page to make them look brown, and they look waaaayy better that way. -- Zippy (talk) 05:27, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

I'd say no, because that's a personal preference (they could also be confused for redlinks, and Mediawiki displays stub links as a brownish color when configured in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering). That's why Mediawiki lets you have user-specific styles, though. —Lethosor (talk) 14:50, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

The idea isn't just about me. I bring this up because right now, the wiki looks super generic. At least color wise. -- Zippy (talk) 08:01, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

That's not a bad thing, though. Blue links are a convention, not just specific to Mediawiki, and we don't want to confuse or distract people from the content too much. I do like what you did with the navboxes like {{DF2014 materials}} and {{DF2014 world}}, by the way. —Lethosor (talk) 00:10, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Are you comfortable changing the links to a different type of blue for originality? Also, this wiki keeps signing me in and out at random times, is that going on for you too? -- Zippy (talk) 06:49, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

No, although I used to have issues when I was switching between HTTP and HTTPS versions of pages, since logging in on https://dwarffortresswiki.org doesn't log you in on http://dwarffortresswiki.org and vice versa. Can you check both of those links, or take note of the protocol when you see the issue again and see if it has changed? —Lethosor (talk) 01:29, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

The "s" link logs me in just fine and the non-s one logs me out. The site seems to be fine with the "s" link. I know you might care about this but... can you give me CSS style a try? The default wiki looks so horribly boring, and this wiki is for one of the greatest games of all time, so even slightly changing link colors would be a plus. This wiki doesn't deserve mega-boring default colors. -- Zippy (talk) 12:26, 20 July 2019 (UTC)

Templates

Regarding the check marks you added to some pages like DF2014:Wetland - those are cool, but that's really something that should use a template, so I've moved it over to {{check}}. Templates are preferable for consistency and maintainability - if we ever have to change the color or the symbol for some reason, making sure the change gets made in thousands of places is way more effort than changing it in one place. It is possible to get carried away with templates (Wikipedia's tick template has at least 10 alternatives - let's stick with one here), but for something like this, please don't hesitate to make a template. —Lethosor (talk) 00:10, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

I don't know if you noticed, but I fixed up some of the license templates for the images. I want to do the same for the first four license selections but they come up as "{{subst:Non-commercial from license selector}}"... I don't know how to edit that, could you help me out there? -- Zippy (talk) 04:21, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay - something separate like this is fine to post on my talk page. Anyway, since it's been a while, can you link me to one of those images so I can see what's going on? —Lethosor (talk) 04:24, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

If you pick certain licenses for uploaded images, selecting some lead to broken things like "{{subst:something license}}" instead of properly showing something. --Zippy (talk) 06:41, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Understood, but can you link to one that's broken? I would prefer not to upload images to test out every license. —Lethosor (talk) 22:32, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I think I understand what the issue was now. "subst:" is a special prefix for templates that causes their contents to be pasted in when the page that includes them is saved (which means that template updates won't affect past inclusions of the template). We don't really use it much on this wiki - {{unsigned}} is about the only example I can think of. Wikipedia uses subst for these because they want the date when the template was first included to be pasted into the page (which is also what {{unsigned}} does), but I don't think we care about that for these license templates. Anyway, I removed subst, so new images should use the templates corresponding to whatever is before the first | character (e.g. Template:No license from license selector). Unfortunately, there may not be a way to force pages that already used subst, like File:Grasshopper Man with Scroll.jpg, to update. —Lethosor (talk) 22:42, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

How to put this...

...not really looking for it per se, but nevertheless... *thumbsup* nice edit? Silverwing235 (talk) 18:16, 26 July 2019 (UTC)