DF2014 Talk:Blue diamond

Removal of first joke

I think that the first joke in the D for Dwarf section ought to be removed. It feels forced (see "blocky-limbed") and out of character for the wiki, and more importantly, i worry that it may be seen as promoting that which it references, making the Wiki look bad for promoting a game that cannot be played ethically and is poorly maintained by one of the worst, most anti-competitive and monopolistic companies in the world. BlueManedHawk (talk) 11:48, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Alright, I wasn't gonna say anything at first, but I noticed you're really on this. I think you're putting a little more emphasis on these jokes than you really need to. Also, you're using the word "promoting", which is a strong word in this case. I mean, not really. That's not much "promoting", we're basically just making silly tongue-in-cheek references to pre-existing products. Also, I think the entirety of Earth and its grandmother knows about the existence of Minecraft anyway... I'm not exactly a fan of that company myself, but you're making it sound like more than what this really is. -- Zippy (talk) 12:12, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

I get that it's a joke, and that many people already know what Minecraft is, but what I'm mostly concerned about is that it's going to hurt the reputation of the Wiki and make it seem like it supports immorality. However, even assuming that it doesn't, I think that just the fact that it feels forced and out of character for the wiki alone is criteria enough to remove it. BlueManedHawk (talk) 12:15, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Yeeeeeeaaaaahhhh... My man, I think I can say with complete confidence that this wiki is proooobably not going to have that issue. Also, saying the joke is out of character for the wiki is false (unless there's a specific detail I'm missing), because there's a plethora of pages that have those same type of jokes. A slight sprinkle of humor on the wiki is fine, at least in those "D for Dwarf" sections. Even the elves page has constant references to them being tree-loving hippies and how hated they are by the community. You're really looking too deep into this. -- Zippy (talk) 12:52, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

> [S]aying the joke is out of character for the wiki is false[…], because there's a plethora of pages that have those same type of jokes.

Do you have any examples? Also, even if the joke is in-character, i still think that the forced feeling of the joke should lead to it either being rewritten to be more subtle and elegant (i hate that word, but i can't think of a better one) or being removed entirely. BlueManedHawk (talk) 13:13, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

This page makes a reference to the character "Sparkster" from the Rocket Knight games. This page makes a Cheetos joke, and also references the infamous game, Cheetah Men. This page references a very well-known sponge that lives in an underwater pineapple. This page makes a joke about the band, The Beatles. This list goes on. I'm really, really not understanding your viewpoint. Do you think that people will view that blue diamond page, then suddenly go "Gasp! By golly, is this wiki really promoting stuff from that bad company!! >=O"? -- Zippy (talk) 13:59, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the examples. All of those also feel forced.

As for people's reactions, i think it will probably be more of an "oh ffs why they referencing that shit", which is still not a great reaction to induce in people. BlueManedHawk (talk) 14:05, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

🤔 I'm sorry man, but this feels so random. I don't think I've ever seen anyone remotely care about those low-key references. Also, I don't think you understand this community very well. We all share hilarious stories about what the game randomly generates, a lot of which are very jarring and ridiculously hilarious. It's not a game that's taken too seriously because of how random it could be. The wiki kind of reflects that. Also... how old are you? -- Zippy (talk) 14:20, 27 July 2022 (UTC)