40d Talk:Magma-safe

How much of this has been verified? Schm0 06:16, 20 November 2007 (EST)

I think it's all based on inference from raw files. I have been meaning to test bauxite or get someone else to do it, but haven't run into any or been very convincing VengefulDonut 10:22, 20 November 2007 (EST)

I haven't run into any Bauxite either, and I was on hunt for it. After starting fortresses on 20+ map squares with Sediment layers, revealing it then exporting images of the layers to analyze...I haven't seen a single Bauxite deposit. Makes me wonder if it's a bug, or if I'm that unlucky. My theory is that Bauxite mechanisms won't melt under magma. --TheUbie 12:53, 20 November 2007 (EST)

I had the same idea :) VengefulDonut 16:40, 20 November 2007 (EST)

Man I hope it's true. Bump that number up to 35 regions with Sediment layers and no Bauxite. Beginning to think it's a bug. --TheUbie 04:29, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Isn't the easiest way to test this either to make some critter drop bauxite, or mod a stone you have to being the same temperature rating and see if that survives. --Shades 06:51, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Is it possible to order bauxite mechanisms from the caravan? --Alfador 11:44, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Actually, the easiest way was for me to edit the raw and put bauxite in every layer in the game. Fired up the game, created a new world, found a magma vent and bam I was in business. The verdict? It's magma-safe. Both Bauxite floodgates and bauxite mechanisms resist the magma, and the bauxite rocks that I left on the floor were unharmed by the magma flow. Bauxite: confirmed. With the iron and steel confirmation, I would believe that anything given the melting point stat above magma's temperature is magma safe. Now, if we can just get Toady to make magma replenish, we could make some amazing magma traps with machines made of iron/steel and bauxite! --TheUbie 15:01, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Iron is definitly magma safe. I've repeatedly flooded goblins with magma, and only their iron equipment remained. Iron floodgates are not destroyed from magma either ( although their mechanisms are. ) Iron screw pumps can pump magma with no problem. IRON IS A OK.--GauHelldragon 05:21, 21 November 2007 (EST)

But you can't make mechanisms out of it, which is what we're trying to do. --GreyMario 16:14, 21 November 2007 (EST)

There's still the question of whether you can make a magma forge/furnace using a platinum bar (I doubt it).--Maximus 19:11, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Raw adamantine is magma-safe. I know we all knew that, but I've tested it. In particular, I built mechanisms out of raw adamantine and tested them on a raw adamantine floodgate. All the loose stone has since melted, but the gate continues to open and close just fine. And while raw adamantine is rare and valuable, at least it's less rare than bauxite.... Doctorlucky 21:00, 21 November 2007 (EST)

Kinda sad when you feel more accomplishment from finding Bauxite than finding Adamantine. --TheUbie 04:50, 22 November 2007 (EST)

well i added a simple solition to this problem, i've added a reaction which makes bauxite from iron and fuel so you can use iron for magma safe mechanisms --Slimtim 08:01, 15 December 2007 (EST)

Weird. I have lots of bauxite on my very first map with magma. The weird thing is, I don't recall whether it's in the sedimentary layer or not. And no, I haven't modded my game at all. But yeah, Bauxite is very magma-proof. There's a bunch of it sitting in a room because my dwarves are lazy. (Then again, I think storing 1500 stones takes alot of work and space.) and the magma made it into that room and all the bauxite is sitting there unconcerned.

I believe Bauxite isn't sedimentary because my map has only one sedimentary layer and I've found bauxite in more than one layer, iirc. Will check and confirm. --CrushU 21:35, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Checked. Bauxite is in a layer with Chert, Chert is Sedimentary, so Bauxite is as well. My bad. In any case, I still have alot of it. *shrug* --CrushU 21:52, 9 January 2008 (EST)

What about mechanisms made of some iron ore? Gonna check it--Dorten 00:00, 16 January 2008 (EST)

Woo... Only stones, which have any MELTING_POINT in MATGLOSS are bauxite, raw adamantine (knew that already) and all, which can be ignited, instead of melting... No Magnetite mechanism can stand the heat of magma... :'(

Request for Example of Use

Are there any maps on the DFMA that bauxite mechanisms are used in? --Jackard 02:23, 16 January 2008 (EST)

Would this help?[1] It's a movie of a magma pumping system to get magma over a river. Ends up showing a REAL nasty bug as well. I believe the related fort has several maps up, both with and without the bug in effect. --Edward 16:19, 16 January 2008 (EST)