40d Talk:Adamantium

Adamantine means literally, "having the properties of adamantium" Adamantium IS NOT a seperate material, and removing it from the word that forms its definition: Adamantine is completely and utterly absurd.

One is a noun, the other is an adjective. No bullshit. [1]

Either way, this article should not exist because of some fanboy discontinuity in your head. – unsigned comment by Eerr

Glad you agree they are two entirely different words, and not a mis-spelling. In a fantasy world - or a fantasy game - a word means whatever the author decides it means. In DF, the adjective Adamantine has been redefined, reinvented to be a fantasy noun. There is no "Adamantium" in DF, and so a simple redirect is inappropriate. If a user is accustomed to the RL word and RL definition (as you seem to be) and gets it mixed up, this page gently corrects them. --Albedo 06:28, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Wrt DF, many authors will write "adamantium" when they should be writing "adamantine". Since there is no such thing as "adamantium" in the DF universe, an article explaining how "adamantium" and "adamantine" are different doesn't really belong here. In the scope of this wiki, "adamantium" will never appear except as a misspelling of "adamantine". VengefulDonut 07:55, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I completely disagree. Since they sound only superficially alike, I don't see how one could be a "misspelling" of the other, any more than "fortress" vs "fortification" could be a misspelling (and yet significantly different in meaning), or "gigantic" and "giant cave spider" - some similar sounds, but nothing alike. However, I agree that "many authors write 'adamantium' when they should be wringig 'adamantine' ". Since we agree that "adamantium" does not exist in the DF universe, how can it redirect anywhere within that universe? It is "wrong", by your own admission, and as such should not be acknowledged as anything but that.--Albedo 11:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

When I say "misspelling" I mean "something that they wrote when actually referring to something else". Perhaps that wasn't the best word for me to use in that situation, but I couldn't think of another. I maintain that nobody will ever use the word adamantium here except as a reference to adamantine. In general, I think this type of situation warrants a redirect.

While I understand you want people to write adamantine when they mean adamantine (it irritates me too when people write it the other way), this is probably not the best outlet for that. Think about it from the point of view of someone who just wants to learn about the blue metal in DF and doesn't care about things like how it's spelled. VengefulDonut 16:35, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

It's two different approaches - I'd rather notify them they have it wrong - it's only 1 extra click, (which is also negative conditioning). If this were a site dedicated to Tolkien, "halflings" (a term largely used by a Role-Playing-game-that-will-not-be-mentioned) would be unacceptable. My worry is that "adamantium" might start to get used if seen as "just another name for it", similar to the way that fuel/coal/etc got all mixed up. While that example clears things up in one way on that topic, the fewer of those we invite the better.--Albedo 23:03, 30 May 2009 (UTC)