Difference between revisions of "40d Talk:Technical tricks"

Latest revision as of 21:53, 8 March 2010

Relevant News[edit]

A few new init settings are on the way according to the Dev Log. It would be nice if the whole of this article could get an overhaul and verification to get it out of the outdated pages.--N9103 21:21, 20 December 2007 (EST)

Economy toggle[edit]

Can the dwarven economy be started in the present version? There are strings in the binary that make me think so, but I haven't been able to activate it. Geekwad 20:19, 6 November 2007 (EST)

No, I don't believe so. I've read that Toady made a few errors with the economy system, and has it disabled in the current version until he gets it fixed. Hesitris 8:55, 15 November 2007

As of the .33b release, the economy can start. Note that the conditions are currently unknown; minting coins is no longer the trigger, or is only one of the triggers.
—0x517A5D 00:48, 23 November 2007 (EST)

Staying Inside?[edit]

When I was hiding my fledgling fortress from a small ogre warband on the surface, I hunkered down behind my fortifications, set my orders to "dwarves stay inside", and carried on with my development. My FPS was almost entirely at my cap, 100fps. When I turned it off, it almost immediately dropped to 60-70 fps. Has anybody else had this happen to them, and should it be posted on this page?

Sounds like "Dwarves Stay Inside" was complicating pathing. I think that's a lot more common in this version, the Z-axis complicates pathing greatly over the 2d version and the addition of traffic zones does the same thing. Kefkakrazy 08:57, 15 November 2007 (EST)--Mithra 04:18, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Don't you mean that it was uncomplicated the pathing? To me it reads as though he gets 100fps with dwarves stay inside set. This makes sense from a programming point of view and assuming that when routes are calculated the fact outside is allowed significantly increases the breathed of the search space. However either my understanding of exactly how much path finding is done is wrong or there is a flaw in Toady's code because pathing in this game adds way too much load on the system. --Shades 10:59, 15 November 2007 (EST)

There are numerous bugs associated with the dwarves stay inside command, Toady mentioned several fixes coming on that issue. It seems they don't drop any outside goals when ordered inside, so they go just inside, stand right at the exit, and do nothing as they try to pathfind a way outside, sounds FPS expensive. Vanan 12:06, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Artifacts == moods?[edit]

Might be worth mentioning in the article whether ARTIFACTS:NO will definitely also stop moods, or whether moods will still occur, but without resulting in artifacts. Runspotrun 16:14, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Uh... making artifacts is the entire point of moods, so yeah. I personally don't play with artifacts turned on, too annoying. --Jackard 17:18, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Engravings[edit]

I thought I read somewhere on the wiki that there is an option you can set so that you receive verbose descriptions of your engravings while in Fortress Mode. Is this possible? --RomeoFalling 21:03, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

In the init file, set [SHOW_ALL_HISTORY_IN_DWARF_MODE] to YES. HeWhoIsPale 21:13, 20 October 2008 (EDT)

Nickname[edit]

Please explain why nickname redirects here. I don't understand. Thanks.--Mithra 04:18, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Probably because of the "# [NICKNAME_DWARF:CENTRALIZE]..." section, have no experience with the nickname function myself, but it's probably mentioned in a few of the tutorials. --Doodle 00:27, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

You are probably right. Until I feel like expanding the nickname page, I guess this is just as good as anything. Thanks.--Mithra 04:31, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

He is right. I made that redirect just recently - this is the only page that comes close to addressing "nicknames". I just updated the redirect to go to that specific sub-section. Don't think it's in any tutorial, at least not that uses the word "nickname". The controls guide and Indecive's guide both mention it in passing, but no real info or help.

I wouldn't create a nickname article - not enough info to worry about, you'd only be creating a stub. Expand the throw-away line in the Controls Guide - that's where I'd expect to find it.--Albedo 06:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

I'll think about it. For now, it's fine.--Mithra 00:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

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 When I was hiding my fledgling fortress from a small ogre warband on the surface, I hunkered down behind my fortifications, set my orders to "dwarves stay inside", and carried on with my development. My FPS was almost entirely at my cap, 100fps. When I turned it off, it almost immediately dropped to 60-70 fps. Has anybody else had this happen to them, and should it be posted on this page?
-:Sounds like "Dwarves Stay Inside" was complicating pathing. I think that's a lot more common in this version, the Z-axis complicates pathing greatly over the 2d version and the addition of traffic zones does the same thing. [[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 08:57, 15 November 2007 (EST)
+:Sounds like "Dwarves Stay Inside" was complicating pathing. I think that's a lot more common in this version, the Z-axis complicates pathing greatly over the 2d version and the addition of traffic zones does the same thing. [[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 08:57, 15 November 2007 (EST)--[[User:Mithra|Mithra]] 04:18, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 ::Don't you mean that it was uncomplicated the pathing? To me it reads as though he gets 100fps with dwarves stay inside set. This makes sense from a programming point of view and assuming that when routes are calculated the fact outside is allowed significantly increases the breathed of the search space. However either my understanding of exactly how much path finding is done is wrong or there is a flaw in Toady's code because pathing in this game adds way too much load on the system. --[[User:Shades|Shades]] 10:59, 15 November 2007 (EST)
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 I thought I read somewhere on the wiki that there is an option you can set so that you receive verbose descriptions of your engravings while in Fortress Mode. Is this possible? --[[User:RomeoFalling|RomeoFalling]] 21:03, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
+:In the init file, set [SHOW_ALL_HISTORY_IN_DWARF_MODE] to YES. [[User:HeWhoIsPale|HeWhoIsPale]] 21:13, 20 October 2008 (EDT)
+==Nickname==
+Please explain why nickname redirects here.  I don't understand.  Thanks.--[[User:Mithra|Mithra]] 04:18, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
+:Probably because of the "# [NICKNAME_DWARF:CENTRALIZE]..." section, have no experience with the nickname function myself, but it's probably mentioned in a few of the tutorials. --[[User:Doodle|Doodle]] 00:27, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
+::You are probably right. Until I feel like expanding the nickname page, I guess this is just as good as anything. Thanks.--[[User:Mithra|Mithra]] 04:31, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
+:::He is right. I made that redirect just recently - this is the only page that comes close to addressing "nicknames".  I just updated the redirect to go to that specific sub-section. Don't think it's in any tutorial, at least not that uses the word "nickname". The [[controls guide]] and Indecive's guide both mention it in passing, but no real info or help.
+:::I wouldn't create a nickname article - not enough info to worry about, you'd only be creating a stub.  Expand the throw-away line in the Controls Guide - that's where I'd expect to find it.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 06:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
+::::I'll think about it.  For now, it's fine.--[[User:Mithra|Mithra]] 00:09, 15 May 2009 (UTC)