v0.31 Talk:Bronze colossus

Heavy Defense

Seems these guys have gotten an added problem in 2010. No amount of physical trauma will outright kill it! In the free arena, I've placed two in there to fight each other, and after hours of pummeling each other, one is all red (except for severed hands and feet and nose), but refuses to die. Dragonfire does the trick, though.--Aescula 20:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but they can be effectively rendered incapable of fighting. I had some experiments with colossi in arena and while they may seem invincible, after some while they turn into torso incapable of any retaliation. Though I suppose they would still scare dwarves, it will give you time to pour some nice, hot magma upon him--SanDiego 12:46, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Must be quite a while, or require adamantine weapons. Legendary axemen with iron axes can beat him for years without accomplishing that. Rodya mirov

As of 31.10 they can be killed by steel two-handed swords in arena mode. --That Guy 11:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I killed one in the arena with a single dwarf and a steel pick, after taking control of the dwarf. I found it was far more effective than the steel warhammer or the spear (dwarves dying, usually during retaliation while over-exerted), didn't care to try other weapons. I severed every limb until it was only head and torso left, that was the most difficult part, since the colossus still evades incoming attacks and torso or head attacks are more difficult. And in my fortress I killed another with a steel short sword (slashes in the head, and the severed part sails off in an arc), with a little help from other 20 soldiers with varied not-adamantine weapons and several war dogs and elephants. This was 0.31.18. --Oitohca 20:58, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

With some trouble, 4 swords dwarves armed with steel short swords chopped a bronze colossus to bits as it tromped through a field of serrated blade traps. I wasn't sure how much the traps helped, but a sword dwarf was credited with the kill. This little guy looked quite proud having left the encounter unscathed. The swordmaster who did most of the work barely survived the fight. I imagine blades are more effective than blunt or piercing attacks. Every (bone, wooden or metal) bolt the onlookers shot at the colossus were ineffective and spears were equally useless. --75.18.178.33 01:49, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

31.18, colossus is not too tough. A speardwarf stabbed him in the head and his head flew off. Snooldex 02:38, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Wrestlers

There's an interesting mechanic (bug? exploit?) involving wrestlers. I had a legendary wrestler who got attacked by one of these. They fought for months, and in fact are still fighting. The colossus seems to have lost the ability to fight - looking back over the logs for the past several months, nothing has happened - and though every part of my wrestler has been destroyed, he is unconscious and bleeding heavily, neither will die. Further, when I attacked it with my other (20 dwarf) force, the colossus didn't fight back.

That said, it still won't die, but it's incapacitated and is now some kind of frightening punching bag. I've gotten three dwarfs from "expert" to "axelord" so far. Not sure how to put this information in the wiki but it belongs here somewhere. Rodya mirov

Looks like that. Migrant fisherdwarf got into fight with colossus and was lucky to survive long enough to become legendary wresler. Now battle report reads that colossus strangles dwarf's throat repeatedly, and they are standing there for 10 days. Peregarrett 11:03, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Seen this in adventure mode when a bronze colossus lost interest in pursuing me (I was leading it to a nearby town, to see what would happen), and attacked a camel - it began wrestling it, and wouldn't stop. Eventually put the camel out of its misery, and the bronze colossus switched its attention to me after I wrestled it. Dunno if that helps.

Adventure quest : Kill Bronze Colossus

I need help. I got a mission to Kill a bronze Colossus but my dwarf can't kill it. I can't even run away! My dwarf already got from skilled to legendary in using the axe. Any suggestions? --Natti 19:46, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

There is a report that a max stat high legendary thrower can throw things of non-trivial mass with sufficient force to knock the head of a BC off. This is linked in the article, though others have had difficulty in reproducing it. --PencilinHand 17:42, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Workaround

Given the essentially unkillable nature of the things, can someone write up a workaround for either eliminating the possibility one spawns, or getting rid of one in game? My fortress is pretty much shut down, with soldiers pounding endlessly away on the colossus (basically a torso, now), and the other dwarves all running around in terror.

I guess, a cave-in would work. Dig a large cavern several floors high under place where he stays then dig channels aroung him - far enough for dwarves won't be scared and can do their jobs. You'll have to find out the distance experimentally. With last square channeled you'll get nice deep pit with a colossus at the centre. Call it Colloseum =) Peregarrett 11:03, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Yuck, that's pretty dubious with loads of 'maybes'. No way to edit a file or something?

You can delete the [CREATURE:COLOSSUS_BRONZE] from the raw files, it's in creature_standard.txt. But you'll get random titans made of random materials anyway, they cannot be removed unless turn invaders off. --TomiTapio 18:12, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Of course you could just trap it in a cage trap. That fixed it for me. Twice.

I can build cage traps well enough, but it seems if I try to go near the thing, the dwarf gets afraid...do I just try to set up traps everywhere and hope that one dwarf will get the courage to build it eventually, then hope that it blunders into it? – unsigned comment by 216.115.147.203

Just build the trap further away, then try and lure the bronze colossus into it. --Quietust 13:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Colossus uses things as a weapon

Colossus is rampaging our site, we had to block all entrances with walls. Accidentally i looked at his inventory and found this:

Also combat report reads:

The bronze colossus strikes The outpost liaison in the head with his (pig tail fiber sock), bruising the muscle, jamming the skull through the brain and tearing the brain!

It seems that colossus picked up an item left from one of his victims' corpse and decided to make some fun of it.--Peregarrett 12:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, normally they don't pick up weapons and items but they DO use those that they obtain through wrestling. I cage trapped a BC in my current fortress, released him into a pit and have been periodically feeding him goblins -- he managed to wrestle away one of the gobbo's spears and used it to stab the sucker (and numerous other unlucky souls that I've dumped into his pit) to death. Imagine if one of them managed to wrestle away an artifact Adamantine weapon :O --Mikefictiti0us 06:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

But that's not a weapon, it's sock. Either they can wrestle away clothes too, or that dwarf used his sock as a weapon (biological weapon of mass destruction, obviously) and colossus decided to save the world by disarming him. Peregarrett 13:59, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

"Yeah, normally they don't pick up weapons and items but they DO use those that they obtain through wrestling." Wrestling the clothes off of opponents has been a long-standing feature: in 40d, wrestlers would eventually end up naked and the barracks covered in drifts of mittens. In the current version, yetis and sasquatches have wrestled clothes away from dwarves before killing them. Maybe they use socks as protective hand gear while jamming their fists through dwarven skulls?JohnnyMadhouse 16:19, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Kaijin (Japanese monster movie) Creative Commons Image

While browsing the subject of Kaiju (a genre of giant monster movies in Japan, including the Godzilla series), I came across this page on Daimajin. And I thought this would be a pretty good approximation of what a Bronze colossus might look like, particularly after it has been killed and mounted as a statue. Image: Daimajin statue

The image itself is part of Wikimedia Commons, so Creative Commons applies. And it was my understanding that the wiki already uses such images for pages on minerals and creatures. Well, Bronze colossus is a creature and this seems appropriate. The only problem is that the background might hint at the small scale. But I think that could be alleviated if some of the background was cropped.

I don't have the wiki know-how to upload it and make it part of a gallery to show. But what do you think? Is this appropriate? Can it be done?--Thundercraft 15:57, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I always pictured the bronze colossus as Talos from Jason and the Argonauts. Here are two sites with good shots of him: [1] [2]. Either images will fall under fair use with the proper credits. I think this would be an appropriate choice since Talos is very likely to be the original inspiration for the bronze colossus; perhaps someone can ask Toady for confirmation about that. Vyn 22:57, 6 July 2011 (UTC)