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I went through the double-slit method last night step by step as listed and experienced no problems with it.  I don't know how constructing walls on a tile a pump is sucking from doesn't work - the constructing wall shouldn't be submerged if the pump is sucking water from it.
 
I went through the double-slit method last night step by step as listed and experienced no problems with it.  I don't know how constructing walls on a tile a pump is sucking from doesn't work - the constructing wall shouldn't be submerged if the pump is sucking water from it.
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:Nagidal, author of the article writes: From this description I can't understand at which point exactly you could not proceed. Somebody already reports no problems with it, so maybe you try again following the tutorial more closely. I am currently busy with an ongoing non-aquifer fortress in 40.04, I will try to verify the double-slit method as soon as I'm done with it. I might as well rework it taking Panando's shortcut shown in the linked youtube video. --[[User:Nagidal|Nagidal]] ([[User talk:Nagidal|talk]]) 17:21, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
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I've just tested this on a single-level aquifier, can confirm that there doesn't seem to be an issue. I'm going to remove the top bit, until someone else experiences problems. [[User:Hagger|Hagger]] ([[User talk:Hagger|talk]]) 16:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
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OP here, just for the record, I just tried again in .23 with a two-level aquifer and it indeed does work. I'm also bloody sure that it *did't* work in an earlier version, but whatever. [[Special:Contributions/80.171.41.191|80.171.41.191]] 15:34, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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== Lots of Missing Images! ==
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Back with v0.34, this was considered a ☼Masterwork☼ page. However, '''sadly''', about '''a third''' of the images in this tutorial are gone! I've looked through the page history. But '''all versions''' are missing the same images - going back to Nagidal's original page for v0.34. With so many images missing, it's difficult to near impossible to follow this tutorial. Is there any chance that someone can recover the missing images? (I sent Nagidal a PM about this via the forums. But he hasn't been on in the last 6 weeks.) Did the files get corrupted or misplaced somehow? Also, until this is fixed, should page quality be reduced to xTatteredx or +Fine+ ? --[[User:Thundercraft|Thundercraft]] ([[User talk:Thundercraft|talk]]) 10:44, 18 May 2016 (UTC)
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:I don't see any missing images. It was likely a brief wiki software issue (the server that hosts the images acts up occasionally), which isn't a good reason to reduce a page's quality. &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 22:02, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
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::If you '''still''' don't see any missing images, perhaps clearing your browser's cache would change that? Regardless, this is clearly not a minor or temporary issue as it persists for me and I'm not the only one reporting it. I did get a reply from Nagidal and he told me he'd try to re-upload the missing images. But, if this is a wiki software issue, perhaps it's due to how image-intensive this page is? I'm not aware of broken images on any other pages. Nor am I aware of another wiki page with this many images. And this is a tutorial. Perhaps breaking this tutorial into two or three parts (pages) would fix this? --[[User:Thundercraft|Thundercraft]] ([[User talk:Thundercraft|talk]]) 00:27, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
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Getting the same issue as Thundercraft - I can see multiple missing images as well. Hopefully just an isolated issue, like Lethosor said. Specifically missing for me are the follow images (as per time of writing)
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Aq18.png
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Aq20.png
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Aq23.png
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Aq24.png
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Aq25.png
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Aq26.png
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Aq27.png
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Aq29.png
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Aq30.png
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Aq31.png
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Aq34.png
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Aq41.png
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Aq44.png
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Aq56.png
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Aq57.png
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Aq58.png
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Aq59.png
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Aq61.png
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Aq63.png
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(apologies for the formatting - really no good way to organize that list.)
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--[[User:CalmBit|CalmBit]] ([[User talk:CalmBit|talk]]) 05:32, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
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:I'm missing the same images as on your list. Except, I'm also missing Aq17.png. (Is it possible that you merely overlooked that one?) I question whether this could be merely a server issue. If it was, then why would visitors see the '''same''' images missing, instead of random ones? --[[User:Thundercraft|Thundercraft]] ([[User talk:Thundercraft|talk]]) 00:27, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
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I have the same issue, but it occurs only when I am logged into my account. When I log out, all the images appear correctly. – [[User:Doorkeeper|Doorkeeper]] 02:45, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
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:This is very weird. You're right: All the images '''will''' display correctly when I am logged out, while the images will '''not''' display when logged in. They also will '''not''' display when viewing the "Printable version" (accessible from the Toolbox on the left). So, I guess it is some sort of software issue. --[[User:Thundercraft|Thundercraft]] ([[User talk:Thundercraft|talk]]) 08:43, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

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"The general method still works fine, however, constructing walls on a tile a pump is sucking from does not seem to work, any more (stuck at "nearly done", always "building site submerged"). Thus, on the final level you'll have to build that wall after relocating the pump. Don't forget to build it, though, or there just might be too much water to evaporate once you're finished. Someone please do screenshots etc and so on and stuff."

I went through the double-slit method last night step by step as listed and experienced no problems with it. I don't know how constructing walls on a tile a pump is sucking from doesn't work - the constructing wall shouldn't be submerged if the pump is sucking water from it.

Nagidal, author of the article writes: From this description I can't understand at which point exactly you could not proceed. Somebody already reports no problems with it, so maybe you try again following the tutorial more closely. I am currently busy with an ongoing non-aquifer fortress in 40.04, I will try to verify the double-slit method as soon as I'm done with it. I might as well rework it taking Panando's shortcut shown in the linked youtube video. --Nagidal (talk) 17:21, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

I've just tested this on a single-level aquifier, can confirm that there doesn't seem to be an issue. I'm going to remove the top bit, until someone else experiences problems. Hagger (talk) 16:36, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

OP here, just for the record, I just tried again in .23 with a two-level aquifer and it indeed does work. I'm also bloody sure that it *did't* work in an earlier version, but whatever. 80.171.41.191 15:34, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Lots of Missing Images![edit]

Back with v0.34, this was considered a ☼Masterwork☼ page. However, sadly, about a third of the images in this tutorial are gone! I've looked through the page history. But all versions are missing the same images - going back to Nagidal's original page for v0.34. With so many images missing, it's difficult to near impossible to follow this tutorial. Is there any chance that someone can recover the missing images? (I sent Nagidal a PM about this via the forums. But he hasn't been on in the last 6 weeks.) Did the files get corrupted or misplaced somehow? Also, until this is fixed, should page quality be reduced to xTatteredx or +Fine+ ? --Thundercraft (talk) 10:44, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

I don't see any missing images. It was likely a brief wiki software issue (the server that hosts the images acts up occasionally), which isn't a good reason to reduce a page's quality. —Lethosor (talk) 22:02, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
If you still don't see any missing images, perhaps clearing your browser's cache would change that? Regardless, this is clearly not a minor or temporary issue as it persists for me and I'm not the only one reporting it. I did get a reply from Nagidal and he told me he'd try to re-upload the missing images. But, if this is a wiki software issue, perhaps it's due to how image-intensive this page is? I'm not aware of broken images on any other pages. Nor am I aware of another wiki page with this many images. And this is a tutorial. Perhaps breaking this tutorial into two or three parts (pages) would fix this? --Thundercraft (talk) 00:27, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Getting the same issue as Thundercraft - I can see multiple missing images as well. Hopefully just an isolated issue, like Lethosor said. Specifically missing for me are the follow images (as per time of writing)

Aq18.png
Aq20.png
Aq23.png
Aq24.png
Aq25.png
Aq26.png
Aq27.png
Aq29.png
Aq30.png
Aq31.png
Aq34.png
Aq41.png
Aq44.png
Aq56.png
Aq57.png
Aq58.png
Aq59.png
Aq61.png
Aq63.png

(apologies for the formatting - really no good way to organize that list.) --CalmBit (talk) 05:32, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm missing the same images as on your list. Except, I'm also missing Aq17.png. (Is it possible that you merely overlooked that one?) I question whether this could be merely a server issue. If it was, then why would visitors see the same images missing, instead of random ones? --Thundercraft (talk) 00:27, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

I have the same issue, but it occurs only when I am logged into my account. When I log out, all the images appear correctly. – Doorkeeper 02:45, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

This is very weird. You're right: All the images will display correctly when I am logged out, while the images will not display when logged in. They also will not display when viewing the "Printable version" (accessible from the Toolbox on the left). So, I guess it is some sort of software issue. --Thundercraft (talk) 08:43, 22 May 2016 (UTC)