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Inconsistent use of dwarves or dwarfs? Both are used on this guide.
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Inconsistent use of dwarves or dwarfs? Both are used on this guide.<small>&ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Kroy|Kroy]]</small>
  
Guilty as charged, is there a preference on which to use? [[User:NCommander|NCommander]] ([[User talk:NCommander|talk]]) 12:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
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:Guilty as charged, is there a preference on which to use? [[User:NCommander|NCommander]] ([[User talk:NCommander|talk]]) 12:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
  
I'm not sure! Other than looking through other pages, I'm not sure where to find out. [[User:Kroy|Kroy]] ([[User talk:Kroy|talk]]) 13:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
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::I'm not sure! Other than looking through other pages, I'm not sure where to find out. [[User:Kroy|Kroy]] ([[User talk:Kroy|talk]]) 13:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
  
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:::The official plural according to the [[Dwarf/raw|raws]] is "dwarves".--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 19:17, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
  
 
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For each what?
 
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I've added some key icons and replaced the ascii [[User:Kroy|Kroy]] ([[User talk:Kroy|talk]]) 13:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
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"The first rule of marksdwarf training is you do *not* assign them a normal barracks. If they have that, they will prefer to train as hammerdwarves with their crossbows vs. actually shooting bolts. Furthermore, as the game gives precedence to melee training, they will almost never use an archery range even if one is assigned if they have a choice."
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The quickstart guide seems to indicate that marksdwarves will never train archery if they're not assigned to a barracks, so either there's some contradictory information on the wiki or there's a nonstandard barracks that should be assigned to them that isn't detailed here. Can someone please clear this up? --[[Special:Contributions/192.156.110.12|192.156.110.12]] 06:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
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== Namespace ==
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Would anyone be opposed to moving this page to the tutorial namespace (e.g. [[Tutorial:Advanced marksdwarf training]])? &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 23:28, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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Given that you appear to have forgotten about this one entirely; no, I certainly wouldn't be, and I don't think there's anyone around who much cares ATM, either! [[User:Silverwing235|Silverwing235]] ([[User talk:Silverwing235|talk]]) 08:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
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: Comment: A [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=200 cursory look] suggest that the concept of Tutorial namespace hasn't caught up, instead [[:Category:Guides]] is being used. Not sure what the intended purpose and advantages of a Tutorial namespace are, but seems like any change would require a LOT of work and would complicate thing like linking. I am not sure that 2021@Lethosor wouldn't be opposed to it himself.
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: Side note: I think that guides\tutorials on the wiki could use a lot of polish, mainly from literary editors rather than technical editors. --[[User:Jan|Jan]] ([[User talk:Jan|talk]]) 15:38, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
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== Using quiver and heavy armor bug? ==
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The article states that
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:"Due to a bug, sometimes a marksdwarf will fail to pick up a quiver if wearing heavy armor"
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As there is no link to bug on mantis, I can't figure out if it is still relevant or some relic from year past. Can anyone familiar with this or better yet find an entry about it on mantis? --[[User:Jan|Jan]] ([[User talk:Jan|talk]]) 15:12, 31 January 2022 (UTC)

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Inconsistent use of dwarves or dwarfs? Both are used on this guide.unsigned comment by Kroy

Guilty as charged, is there a preference on which to use? NCommander (talk) 12:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure! Other than looking through other pages, I'm not sure where to find out. Kroy (talk) 13:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
The official plural according to the raws is "dwarves".--Loci (talk) 19:17, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

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"Then press shift-done to give the order" what is "Shift-done"? Kroy (talk) 13:09, 11 May 2015 (UTC)


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"You have to do this for each."

For each what? 64.56.140.43 12:28, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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I've added some key icons and replaced the ascii Kroy (talk) 13:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

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"The first rule of marksdwarf training is you do *not* assign them a normal barracks. If they have that, they will prefer to train as hammerdwarves with their crossbows vs. actually shooting bolts. Furthermore, as the game gives precedence to melee training, they will almost never use an archery range even if one is assigned if they have a choice."

The quickstart guide seems to indicate that marksdwarves will never train archery if they're not assigned to a barracks, so either there's some contradictory information on the wiki or there's a nonstandard barracks that should be assigned to them that isn't detailed here. Can someone please clear this up? --192.156.110.12 06:43, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Namespace[edit]

Would anyone be opposed to moving this page to the tutorial namespace (e.g. Tutorial:Advanced marksdwarf training)? —Lethosor (talk) 23:28, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Given that you appear to have forgotten about this one entirely; no, I certainly wouldn't be, and I don't think there's anyone around who much cares ATM, either! Silverwing235 (talk) 08:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Comment: A cursory look suggest that the concept of Tutorial namespace hasn't caught up, instead Category:Guides is being used. Not sure what the intended purpose and advantages of a Tutorial namespace are, but seems like any change would require a LOT of work and would complicate thing like linking. I am not sure that 2021@Lethosor wouldn't be opposed to it himself.
Side note: I think that guides\tutorials on the wiki could use a lot of polish, mainly from literary editors rather than technical editors. --Jan (talk) 15:38, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Using quiver and heavy armor bug?[edit]

The article states that

"Due to a bug, sometimes a marksdwarf will fail to pick up a quiver if wearing heavy armor"

As there is no link to bug on mantis, I can't figure out if it is still relevant or some relic from year past. Can anyone familiar with this or better yet find an entry about it on mantis? --Jan (talk) 15:12, 31 January 2022 (UTC)