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| − | *actual reaction numbers (i.e. how many sheets does a hide give you | + | *actual reaction numbers (i.e. how many sheets does a hide give you) |
*<s>specify "cloth plants", add paper industry info on the pages of those plants</s> | *<s>specify "cloth plants", add paper industry info on the pages of those plants</s> | ||
*<s>specify "calcium carbonate stones"</s>, add paper industry info on the pages of those stones and on the general [[stone]] page | *<s>specify "calcium carbonate stones"</s>, add paper industry info on the pages of those stones and on the general [[stone]] page | ||
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—[[User:CLA|CLA]] ([[User talk:CLA|talk]]) 14:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC) | —[[User:CLA|CLA]] ([[User talk:CLA|talk]]) 14:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC) | ||
:I think pressing and milling jobs are done by the "papermaking" labour and creating quires, scrolls and books the "bookbinding" labour. [[User:Ashameron|Ashameron]] ([[User talk:Ashameron|talk]]) 10:17, 18 December 2015 (UTC) | :I think pressing and milling jobs are done by the "papermaking" labour and creating quires, scrolls and books the "bookbinding" labour. [[User:Ashameron|Ashameron]] ([[User talk:Ashameron|talk]]) 10:17, 18 December 2015 (UTC) | ||
| + | ::raws confirmed this. added it in [[User:Ashameron|Ashameron]] ([[User talk:Ashameron|talk]]) 17:53, 18 December 2015 (UTC) | ||
== Questions/Bugs == | == Questions/Bugs == | ||
| − | * sheets do not seem to be stored anywhere but just lie in the screw press / farmers workshop? | + | *<s> sheets do not seem to be stored anywhere but just lie in the screw press / farmers workshop?</s> They have their own stockpile |
| − | * sheets have a value -> does it influence the value of a quire? | + | * sheets have a value -> does it influence the value of a quire? |
* do the values of the ingredients influence the value of a book or is it like with Traction benches? | * do the values of the ingredients influence the value of a book or is it like with Traction benches? | ||
[[User:Ashameron|Ashameron]] ([[User talk:Ashameron|talk]]) 10:17, 18 December 2015 (UTC) | [[User:Ashameron|Ashameron]] ([[User talk:Ashameron|talk]]) 10:17, 18 December 2015 (UTC) | ||
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== Consolidation or separate pages? == | == Consolidation or separate pages? == | ||
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: My vote is to only have quick summaries of each item on their own pages, indicating how to make them and what can be made of them, alongside a link to this article for the full overview of the industry. I also think this page should expand upon the creation and usage of books and scrolls. --[[User:Calite|Calite]] ([[User talk:Calite|talk]]) 22:06, 12 December 2015 (UTC) | : My vote is to only have quick summaries of each item on their own pages, indicating how to make them and what can be made of them, alongside a link to this article for the full overview of the industry. I also think this page should expand upon the creation and usage of books and scrolls. --[[User:Calite|Calite]] ([[User talk:Calite|talk]]) 22:06, 12 December 2015 (UTC) | ||
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| + | : plz add a link to slurry in the part about sheet made from plant fibre | ||
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| + | ([https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/85.127.9.97]) Kind of forgot about this, so, [https://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php?title=DF2014:Paper_industry&curid=35133&diff=266335&oldid=262265| done]. [[User:Silverwing235|Silverwing235]] ([[User talk:Silverwing235|talk]]) 11:22, 9 October 2022 (UTC) | ||
Latest revision as of 20:46, 9 October 2022
Quote from Toady:
We have three branches for the release: papyrus, paper (from cloth plants) and parchment. Papyrus is easier to use if you can find it on the map (you make sheets directly at the farmer's workshop. Otherwise you'll have to set up a mill+press for paper (mill to slurry, press slurry to sheet), or go through the parchment process: calcium carbonate stones at kiln -> quicklime, quicklime at ashery -> milk of lime, hide + milk of lime at tanner -> parchment sheet. Currently in the game, a parchment sheet is called a "vellum sheet" when made from a cow (of any age). Otherwise, it is called "<animal> parchment sheet". These materials can currently only be use to make quires or scrolls (with rollers). Then you can bind the quires into codices with bindings.
Todo:
Add jobs, links, etc to:
Create new pages, redirects, or add information on existing pages for:
- Book
- parchment sheet
- sheet
- paper
- vellum sheet
- Quire
- Scroll, scroll rollers
book binding
Other:
- actual reaction numbers (i.e. how many sheets does a hide give you)
specify "cloth plants", add paper industry info on the pages of those plantsspecify "calcium carbonate stones", add paper industry info on the pages of those stones and on the general stone page- maybe redirect calcium carbonate to stone page and add a paragraph about quicklime
—CLA (talk) 14:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
- I think pressing and milling jobs are done by the "papermaking" labour and creating quires, scrolls and books the "bookbinding" labour. Ashameron (talk) 10:17, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Questions/Bugs[edit]
sheets do not seem to be stored anywhere but just lie in the screw press / farmers workshop?They have their own stockpile- sheets have a value -> does it influence the value of a quire?
- do the values of the ingredients influence the value of a book or is it like with Traction benches?
Ashameron (talk) 10:17, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
Consolidation or separate pages?[edit]
Should we consolidate all the stub articles (paper, sheet, scroll, etc, but not book) into this one? CLA (talk) 14:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
- My vote is to only have quick summaries of each item on their own pages, indicating how to make them and what can be made of them, alongside a link to this article for the full overview of the industry. I also think this page should expand upon the creation and usage of books and scrolls. --Calite (talk) 22:06, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- plz add a link to slurry in the part about sheet made from plant fibre
([1]) Kind of forgot about this, so, done. Silverwing235 (talk) 11:22, 9 October 2022 (UTC)