DF2014 Talk:Domestic animal

Correct Grazer Value

I couldn't help but notice that the Grazer value shown in this page is just using the old grazer value, which I believe was reworked for the most recent release. Based on the formula offered on the Grazer page, it looks like, for example, a water buffalo would have an effective Grazer value of about 356, rather than 60. And, if this is the case, it would mean that animals like the Water Buffalo are no longer nigh impossible to keep alive (as suggested in the notes section of this page). Since the formula is pretty straight forward, I went ahead and calculated the effective Grazer value for the domestic grazers, based on the max size offered in their various articles here. I've not had the opportunity to test any of this, mind you; I'm operating on the assumption that other DF2014 articles offer correct and current information. I rounded all numbers up, but I'd like to note that I'm not sure if the actual game rounds up, down, or to the nearest whole.

Animal	Effective Grazer
Alpaca	2614
Cavy	74768
Cow	522
Donkey	878
Goat	3364
Horse	599
Llama	1287
Mule	708
Pig	2934
Sheep	3364
Rabbit	106366
Reindeer	1643
Water Buffalo	356
Yak	465

Anyway, just thought I'd call attention to this here. This was original discussed elsewhere, but it doesn't look like this was accounted for in this article yet. -Rotaretilbo (talk) 20:46, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Also, just as an aside, because I haven't tested any of this, and because I'm fairly new to this wiki, I'm not going to edit the main page. I don't know what guidelines or procedures are in place regarding editing pages proper, so I'll leave it to someone who is familiar with the wiki and can test that I've done the math correct and haven't misunderstood anything to correct this potential mistake on the page. -Rotaretilbo (talk) 20:51, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Rotaretilbo. I've made the updates.

Please feel free to edit articles directly. Even if your numbers are rounded incorrectly, they're clearly superior to what was there before, so adding them unarguably improved the article. B is for Bold! And as they say on Wikipedia, perfection is not required. Bognor (talk) 02:05, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

I'm glad I didn't make the edit in this case: I can't believe I missed that Pigs aren't Grazers! :S Thanks for fixing that, and for the advice. I'll be less passive in my contributions in the future. -Rotaretilbo (talk) 17:02, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

feeding animals

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Goblin domestic animals

Add evil common domestic, like beak dog.