- v50 information can now be added to pages in the main namespace. v0.47 information can still be found in the DF2014 namespace. See here for more details on the new versioning policy.
- Use this page to report any issues related to the migration.
Difference between revisions of "40d Talk:Bronze colossus"
(14 intermediate revisions by 9 users not shown) | |||
Line 8: | Line 8: | ||
In an unfortunate pit fight mishap (I guess maybe megabeasts escape when you try to dump them into a pit?), I had one of these guys rampage through my base. My quite impressive army of champions put an end to it with not a single scratch on them. The only casualty other than the BC was a war dog who gave his life to save the poor Siege Engineer who was transporting the colossus to the pit. The SE went berserk later due to his injuries though :-(. Watching the whole thing with combat messages on was quite fun! --[[User:Zardus|Zardus]] 03:03, 21 April 2008 (EDT) | In an unfortunate pit fight mishap (I guess maybe megabeasts escape when you try to dump them into a pit?), I had one of these guys rampage through my base. My quite impressive army of champions put an end to it with not a single scratch on them. The only casualty other than the BC was a war dog who gave his life to save the poor Siege Engineer who was transporting the colossus to the pit. The SE went berserk later due to his injuries though :-(. Watching the whole thing with combat messages on was quite fun! --[[User:Zardus|Zardus]] 03:03, 21 April 2008 (EDT) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Is it even possible to defeat one of these things without a military? I let it out of a cage for practice for my wrestler recruits (in retrospect, a bit dumb) and it proceeded to slaughter eighty dwarves and end my fortress. I recruited everyone in the fortress and he just slung them all into walls until they died. | ||
+ | --[[User:Dadamh|Dadamh]] 14:55, 29 May 2008 (EDT) | ||
+ | |||
+ | == uses == | ||
+ | I just got my first megabeast, and instead of a nice hydra or dragon to tame and have guard my fortress, I instead got one of these guys. I'm currently considering one of the following options: 1. put it in a zoo 2. put it in one of my [[unfortunate accident |noble's]] rooms 3. destroy it in magma 4. target practice or 5. just let it sit in a pit until the end of time. Does anyone know anything else better than these to do with this guy? the magam and pit seem to be just a waste, and the zoo might be boring.--[[User:Destor|Destor]] 20:02, 8 December 2008 (EST) | ||
+ | |||
+ | :Kill it and install the statue. --[[User:GreyMario|GreyMaria]] 20:17, 8 December 2008 (EST) | ||
+ | |||
+ | sounds good, but 1. how do get it to my pit (about 20 z-levels) and 2. there is nothing fun to do with these guys? I can't have it be my fortress defence or something? Anyway, what is your suggestion for killing it. Note, my military consists of 1 speardwarf, and 4 recruits (whom I made after this event, so I would be more prepared.)--[[User:Destor|Destor]] 20:42, 8 December 2008 (EST) | ||
+ | |||
+ | == Adventure mode == | ||
+ | |||
+ | Out of curiosity has anyone gotten around to taking one on in adventure mode as of 0.28.181.40d? I did it with an exceptional copper spear and, aside from a good deal of glancing shots, it wasn't too difficult. I think my experience is an exception, though as my adventurer is pretty fearsome. I am hoping to add something about the chances an adventure would have typically and strategies for taking one down. Kind of like the [[Giant_cave_spider]] entry --[[User:PencilinHand|PencilinHand]] 20:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | I took one on just now. My adventurer was an axe dwarf with an iron battleaxe. The colossus got fractures all over from my companions cross bow. All I did was glancing blows. Finally he killed the bowman when he ran out of arrows and then proceeded to continue the battle of attrition with me. I attack, hit, glancing blow. He attacks, I block or dodge. Lather rinse repeat for 3 minutes before he got lucky and hit me. Then **** hit the fan and he knocked me unconsious and strangled me to death. [[Special:Contributions/173.81.130.163|173.81.130.163]] 18:37, 1 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
+ | :There are no "fractures" in 40d - did you mean to post this on the DF2010 talk page? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | Oh yeah my bad, my compuer has a habit of it saying its on one page everywhere when its really on another page. My bad guys. [[Special:Contributions/173.81.130.163|173.81.130.163]] 03:03, 3 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==Value Disparity== | ||
+ | Killing a lowly [[iron man]] gives you a statue worth 3000 dwarfbucks. Killing a mighty [[bronze colossus]] gives you a statue worth only 1500, half the value. Something doesn't seem quite right - given its uniqueness, a bronze colossus ought to become an [[artifact]] statue, ideally with the bronze colossus's name. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 16:47, 24 November 2009 (UTC) | ||
+ | :This is not just the colossus. If you have a place with lots of iron in it (for example a chalk mountain with tons of magnetite), you can make everything out of iron, and even use magnetite as a building material. You will barely need obscure metals like bronze or fine pewter. You just use iron, or if you have enough coal, steel. [[User:Petersohn|Petersohn]] 22:38, 29 November 2009 (UTC) | ||
+ | ::I think you've entirely missed the point of my comment - I wasn't complaining that bronze is not valuable, but that the Masterwork Bronze Statue dropped from a dead Bronze Colossus is nearly worthless in comparison to the death drop of a common chasm creature. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 03:03, 3 June 2011
Has anyone managed to see if the collossii still drop nice statues when you kill them with crossbows? --Frostedfire 18:54, 8 November 2007 (EST)
They should no matter how you kill them. But I have verified that they still can slaughter about anything and toss it across the screen. And go through an entire army while only getting a scratch on the arm. --Penguinofhonor 16:45, 2 December 2007 (EST)
Good god, I've just lost three champions, two axe lords, and a swordmaster along with about twenty assorted soldiers and guards to one of these guys. And he heals himself. --Neatoburrito 15:38, 5 January 2008 (EST)
Should it be noted that if you can trap a colossus (via channels filled with water or similar) you can train marksdwarves VERY quickly by using it as a target (since it has no vitals to pierce and heals fast enough to overcome the damage from a couple of attackers). --Erom 13:49, 6 March 2008 (EST)
In an unfortunate pit fight mishap (I guess maybe megabeasts escape when you try to dump them into a pit?), I had one of these guys rampage through my base. My quite impressive army of champions put an end to it with not a single scratch on them. The only casualty other than the BC was a war dog who gave his life to save the poor Siege Engineer who was transporting the colossus to the pit. The SE went berserk later due to his injuries though :-(. Watching the whole thing with combat messages on was quite fun! --Zardus 03:03, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
Is it even possible to defeat one of these things without a military? I let it out of a cage for practice for my wrestler recruits (in retrospect, a bit dumb) and it proceeded to slaughter eighty dwarves and end my fortress. I recruited everyone in the fortress and he just slung them all into walls until they died. --Dadamh 14:55, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
uses[edit]
I just got my first megabeast, and instead of a nice hydra or dragon to tame and have guard my fortress, I instead got one of these guys. I'm currently considering one of the following options: 1. put it in a zoo 2. put it in one of my noble's rooms 3. destroy it in magma 4. target practice or 5. just let it sit in a pit until the end of time. Does anyone know anything else better than these to do with this guy? the magam and pit seem to be just a waste, and the zoo might be boring.--Destor 20:02, 8 December 2008 (EST)
- Kill it and install the statue. --GreyMaria 20:17, 8 December 2008 (EST)
sounds good, but 1. how do get it to my pit (about 20 z-levels) and 2. there is nothing fun to do with these guys? I can't have it be my fortress defence or something? Anyway, what is your suggestion for killing it. Note, my military consists of 1 speardwarf, and 4 recruits (whom I made after this event, so I would be more prepared.)--Destor 20:42, 8 December 2008 (EST)
Adventure mode[edit]
Out of curiosity has anyone gotten around to taking one on in adventure mode as of 0.28.181.40d? I did it with an exceptional copper spear and, aside from a good deal of glancing shots, it wasn't too difficult. I think my experience is an exception, though as my adventurer is pretty fearsome. I am hoping to add something about the chances an adventure would have typically and strategies for taking one down. Kind of like the Giant_cave_spider entry --PencilinHand 20:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I took one on just now. My adventurer was an axe dwarf with an iron battleaxe. The colossus got fractures all over from my companions cross bow. All I did was glancing blows. Finally he killed the bowman when he ran out of arrows and then proceeded to continue the battle of attrition with me. I attack, hit, glancing blow. He attacks, I block or dodge. Lather rinse repeat for 3 minutes before he got lucky and hit me. Then **** hit the fan and he knocked me unconsious and strangled me to death. 173.81.130.163 18:37, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
- There are no "fractures" in 40d - did you mean to post this on the DF2010 talk page? --Quietust 21:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Oh yeah my bad, my compuer has a habit of it saying its on one page everywhere when its really on another page. My bad guys. 173.81.130.163 03:03, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Value Disparity[edit]
Killing a lowly iron man gives you a statue worth 3000 dwarfbucks. Killing a mighty bronze colossus gives you a statue worth only 1500, half the value. Something doesn't seem quite right - given its uniqueness, a bronze colossus ought to become an artifact statue, ideally with the bronze colossus's name. --Quietust 16:47, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- This is not just the colossus. If you have a place with lots of iron in it (for example a chalk mountain with tons of magnetite), you can make everything out of iron, and even use magnetite as a building material. You will barely need obscure metals like bronze or fine pewter. You just use iron, or if you have enough coal, steel. Petersohn 22:38, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
- I think you've entirely missed the point of my comment - I wasn't complaining that bronze is not valuable, but that the Masterwork Bronze Statue dropped from a dead Bronze Colossus is nearly worthless in comparison to the death drop of a common chasm creature. --Quietust 00:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)