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== Adventure mode == | == Adventure mode == | ||
| − | Out of curiosity has anyone gotten around to taking one on in adventure mode as of | + | Out of curiosity has anyone gotten around to taking one on in adventure mode as of 0.28.181.40d? I did it with an exceptional copper spear and, aside from a good deal of glancing shots, it wasn't too difficult. I think my experience is an exception, though as my adventurer is pretty fearsome. I am hoping to add something about the chances an adventure would have typically and strategies for taking one down. Kind of like the [[Giant_cave_spider]] entry --[[User:PencilinHand|PencilinHand]] 20:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC) |
| + | I took one on just now. My adventurer was an axe dwarf with an iron battleaxe. The colossus got fractures all over from my companions cross bow. All I did was glancing blows. Finally he killed the bowman when he ran out of arrows and then proceeded to continue the battle of attrition with me. I attack, hit, glancing blow. He attacks, I block or dodge. Lather rinse repeat for 3 minutes before he got lucky and hit me. Then **** hit the fan and he knocked me unconsious and strangled me to death. [[Special:Contributions/173.81.130.163|173.81.130.163]] 18:37, 1 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
| + | :There are no "fractures" in 40d - did you mean to post this on the DF2010 talk page? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 21:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
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| + | Oh yeah my bad, my compuer has a habit of it saying its on one page everywhere when its really on another page. My bad guys. [[Special:Contributions/173.81.130.163|173.81.130.163]] 03:03, 3 June 2011 (UTC) | ||
==Value Disparity== | ==Value Disparity== | ||
| − | Killing a lowly iron man gives you a statue worth 3000 dwarfbucks. Killing a mighty [[bronze colossus]] gives you a statue worth only 1500, half the value. Something doesn't seem quite right - given its uniqueness, a bronze colossus ought to become an [[artifact]] statue, ideally with the bronze colossus's name. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 16:47, 24 November 2009 (UTC) | + | Killing a lowly [[iron man]] gives you a statue worth 3000 dwarfbucks. Killing a mighty [[bronze colossus]] gives you a statue worth only 1500, half the value. Something doesn't seem quite right - given its uniqueness, a bronze colossus ought to become an [[artifact]] statue, ideally with the bronze colossus's name. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 16:47, 24 November 2009 (UTC) |
| − | :This is not just the colossus. If you have a place with lots of iron in it (for example a chalk mountain with tons of magnetite), you can make everything out of iron, and even use magnetite as a building material. You will barely need obscure metals like bronze or fine pewter. You just use iron, or if you have enough coal, steel. | + | :This is not just the colossus. If you have a place with lots of iron in it (for example a chalk mountain with tons of magnetite), you can make everything out of iron, and even use magnetite as a building material. You will barely need obscure metals like bronze or fine pewter. You just use iron, or if you have enough coal, steel. [[User:Petersohn|Petersohn]] 22:38, 29 November 2009 (UTC) |
| + | ::I think you've entirely missed the point of my comment - I wasn't complaining that bronze is not valuable, but that the Masterwork Bronze Statue dropped from a dead Bronze Colossus is nearly worthless in comparison to the death drop of a common chasm creature. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 00:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC) | ||
Latest revision as of 03:03, 3 June 2011
Has anyone managed to see if the collossii still drop nice statues when you kill them with crossbows? --Frostedfire 18:54, 8 November 2007 (EST)
They should no matter how you kill them. But I have verified that they still can slaughter about anything and toss it across the screen. And go through an entire army while only getting a scratch on the arm. --Penguinofhonor 16:45, 2 December 2007 (EST)
Good god, I've just lost three champions, two axe lords, and a swordmaster along with about twenty assorted soldiers and guards to one of these guys. And he heals himself. --Neatoburrito 15:38, 5 January 2008 (EST)
Should it be noted that if you can trap a colossus (via channels filled with water or similar) you can train marksdwarves VERY quickly by using it as a target (since it has no vitals to pierce and heals fast enough to overcome the damage from a couple of attackers). --Erom 13:49, 6 March 2008 (EST)
In an unfortunate pit fight mishap (I guess maybe megabeasts escape when you try to dump them into a pit?), I had one of these guys rampage through my base. My quite impressive army of champions put an end to it with not a single scratch on them. The only casualty other than the BC was a war dog who gave his life to save the poor Siege Engineer who was transporting the colossus to the pit. The SE went berserk later due to his injuries though :-(. Watching the whole thing with combat messages on was quite fun! --Zardus 03:03, 21 April 2008 (EDT)
Is it even possible to defeat one of these things without a military? I let it out of a cage for practice for my wrestler recruits (in retrospect, a bit dumb) and it proceeded to slaughter eighty dwarves and end my fortress. I recruited everyone in the fortress and he just slung them all into walls until they died. --Dadamh 14:55, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
uses[edit]
I just got my first megabeast, and instead of a nice hydra or dragon to tame and have guard my fortress, I instead got one of these guys. I'm currently considering one of the following options: 1. put it in a zoo 2. put it in one of my noble's rooms 3. destroy it in magma 4. target practice or 5. just let it sit in a pit until the end of time. Does anyone know anything else better than these to do with this guy? the magam and pit seem to be just a waste, and the zoo might be boring.--Destor 20:02, 8 December 2008 (EST)
- Kill it and install the statue. --GreyMaria 20:17, 8 December 2008 (EST)
sounds good, but 1. how do get it to my pit (about 20 z-levels) and 2. there is nothing fun to do with these guys? I can't have it be my fortress defence or something? Anyway, what is your suggestion for killing it. Note, my military consists of 1 speardwarf, and 4 recruits (whom I made after this event, so I would be more prepared.)--Destor 20:42, 8 December 2008 (EST)
Adventure mode[edit]
Out of curiosity has anyone gotten around to taking one on in adventure mode as of 0.28.181.40d? I did it with an exceptional copper spear and, aside from a good deal of glancing shots, it wasn't too difficult. I think my experience is an exception, though as my adventurer is pretty fearsome. I am hoping to add something about the chances an adventure would have typically and strategies for taking one down. Kind of like the Giant_cave_spider entry --PencilinHand 20:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
I took one on just now. My adventurer was an axe dwarf with an iron battleaxe. The colossus got fractures all over from my companions cross bow. All I did was glancing blows. Finally he killed the bowman when he ran out of arrows and then proceeded to continue the battle of attrition with me. I attack, hit, glancing blow. He attacks, I block or dodge. Lather rinse repeat for 3 minutes before he got lucky and hit me. Then **** hit the fan and he knocked me unconsious and strangled me to death. 173.81.130.163 18:37, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
- There are no "fractures" in 40d - did you mean to post this on the DF2010 talk page? --Quietust 21:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Oh yeah my bad, my compuer has a habit of it saying its on one page everywhere when its really on another page. My bad guys. 173.81.130.163 03:03, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
Value Disparity[edit]
Killing a lowly iron man gives you a statue worth 3000 dwarfbucks. Killing a mighty bronze colossus gives you a statue worth only 1500, half the value. Something doesn't seem quite right - given its uniqueness, a bronze colossus ought to become an artifact statue, ideally with the bronze colossus's name. --Quietust 16:47, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
- This is not just the colossus. If you have a place with lots of iron in it (for example a chalk mountain with tons of magnetite), you can make everything out of iron, and even use magnetite as a building material. You will barely need obscure metals like bronze or fine pewter. You just use iron, or if you have enough coal, steel. Petersohn 22:38, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
- I think you've entirely missed the point of my comment - I wasn't complaining that bronze is not valuable, but that the Masterwork Bronze Statue dropped from a dead Bronze Colossus is nearly worthless in comparison to the death drop of a common chasm creature. --Quietust 00:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)