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:There IS a chance for raw glass (and presumably other raw gems, too) to be cut into crafts.  I ordered 20 cuttings of each type, having stocked up on trader-supplied raw glass, and of 20 green and 17 clear (thus far), I've gotten 1 large green, 4 large clear, 1 clear amulet, and 1 clear crown, plus the 19 cut green and 11 cut clear.  It's nto a very LARGE chance, by any means.  Certainly the amulet and the crown didn't come from any other glass source - I haven't built the necessary furnace yet. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 21:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 
:There IS a chance for raw glass (and presumably other raw gems, too) to be cut into crafts.  I ordered 20 cuttings of each type, having stocked up on trader-supplied raw glass, and of 20 green and 17 clear (thus far), I've gotten 1 large green, 4 large clear, 1 clear amulet, and 1 clear crown, plus the 19 cut green and 11 cut clear.  It's nto a very LARGE chance, by any means.  Certainly the amulet and the crown didn't come from any other glass source - I haven't built the necessary furnace yet. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 21:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 
: I too have seen glass crafts appear from cut raw glass, or I wouldn't have changed it. In fact, it also happened in 40d. I know this because I never order my glassmakers to make glass crafts: I order them to make raw glass for my jewelry industry, and some raw glass ended up as glass crafts. They are probably named identically as glass crafts derived the more direct way, which I imagine is where the confusion comes from. That's a good point about the material table, however, and I will correct that. EDIT: It appears you cannot make glass crafts directly. That makes the presence of glass rings in my fortresses even more strong evidence for crafts coming from gem cutters.[[User:JohnnyMadhouse|JohnnyMadhouse]] 22:29, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 
: I too have seen glass crafts appear from cut raw glass, or I wouldn't have changed it. In fact, it also happened in 40d. I know this because I never order my glassmakers to make glass crafts: I order them to make raw glass for my jewelry industry, and some raw glass ended up as glass crafts. They are probably named identically as glass crafts derived the more direct way, which I imagine is where the confusion comes from. That's a good point about the material table, however, and I will correct that. EDIT: It appears you cannot make glass crafts directly. That makes the presence of glass rings in my fortresses even more strong evidence for crafts coming from gem cutters.[[User:JohnnyMadhouse|JohnnyMadhouse]] 22:29, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
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::Okay, now that the jobs are done, I ended up with:
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::{| class="wikitable"
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|-
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!
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! Green
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! Clear
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! Crystal
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|-
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| Cut Gems
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| 19
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| 12
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| 14
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|-
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| Large Gems
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| 1
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| 5
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| 3
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|-
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| Amulets
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| 0
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| 1
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| 0
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|-
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| Scepters
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| 0
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| 0
 +
| 1
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|-
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| Crowns
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| 0
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| 1
 +
| 1
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|-
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| Bracelets
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| 0
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| 1
 +
| 1
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|}
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::I didn't restrict by skill or anything, so I've got no idea who did which item.  It does seem relevant that the green glass, which went first, didn't get cut into any crafts... that seems to imply that higher skill makes crafts more likely, just as higher skill makes large gems more likely. --[[User:DeMatt|DeMatt]] 22:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Revision as of 22:44, 8 June 2010

Glass Crafts?

Under Large Gems, "Gems and glass also have a chance to be cut into crafts this way". In 40d, cutting glass would only result in large gems, never crafts. Considering this section was copied almost verbatim from 40d:Trade good, it would be nice to have some proof that glass crafts actually exist in 0.31 (and should probably be noted as a difference from previous versions). Additionally, the Materials table suggests that glass cannot be made into crafts, so this is inconsistent. --Quietust 18:48, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

There IS a chance for raw glass (and presumably other raw gems, too) to be cut into crafts. I ordered 20 cuttings of each type, having stocked up on trader-supplied raw glass, and of 20 green and 17 clear (thus far), I've gotten 1 large green, 4 large clear, 1 clear amulet, and 1 clear crown, plus the 19 cut green and 11 cut clear. It's nto a very LARGE chance, by any means. Certainly the amulet and the crown didn't come from any other glass source - I haven't built the necessary furnace yet. --DeMatt 21:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
I too have seen glass crafts appear from cut raw glass, or I wouldn't have changed it. In fact, it also happened in 40d. I know this because I never order my glassmakers to make glass crafts: I order them to make raw glass for my jewelry industry, and some raw glass ended up as glass crafts. They are probably named identically as glass crafts derived the more direct way, which I imagine is where the confusion comes from. That's a good point about the material table, however, and I will correct that. EDIT: It appears you cannot make glass crafts directly. That makes the presence of glass rings in my fortresses even more strong evidence for crafts coming from gem cutters.JohnnyMadhouse 22:29, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay, now that the jobs are done, I ended up with:
Green Clear Crystal
Cut Gems 19 12 14
Large Gems 1 5 3
Amulets 0 1 0
Scepters 0 0 1
Crowns 0 1 1
Bracelets 0 1 1
I didn't restrict by skill or anything, so I've got no idea who did which item. It does seem relevant that the green glass, which went first, didn't get cut into any crafts... that seems to imply that higher skill makes crafts more likely, just as higher skill makes large gems more likely. --DeMatt 22:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)