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:I suspect giant cave spider silk will mess this up. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 16:46, 24 February 2008 (EST) | :I suspect giant cave spider silk will mess this up. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 16:46, 24 February 2008 (EST) | ||
:: Go away ;P No, yes, i already noticed, doesn't work with giant..but for the rest it's fine. And giant silk is messed up altogether, other than that its mighty valuable, the numbers don't fit at all. Have any thread at hand for comparison? --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 17:03, 24 February 2008 (EST) | :: Go away ;P No, yes, i already noticed, doesn't work with giant..but for the rest it's fine. And giant silk is messed up altogether, other than that its mighty valuable, the numbers don't fit at all. Have any thread at hand for comparison? --[[User:Koltom|Koltom]] 17:03, 24 February 2008 (EST) | ||
| + | ::: I think the +20 comes from 10 x 2. The 2 is from the cloth value. [[User:VengefulDonut|VengefulDonut]] 17:09, 24 February 2008 (EST) | ||
Revision as of 22:09, 24 February 2008
I don't think raw materials have a value of 0 anymore. Raw stone for an example seems to have a base value of 3*. Noctis 03:26, 11 November 2007 (EST)
- Some do some don't. Bones have a value of 0. Raw stone, gems, wood does have a base value. --Soyweiser 08:14, 11 November 2007 (EST)
I don't know if we should list all of the gems, it clutters the page up a bit. Maybe we should just link to Gem, it has all of the gem values. --Valdemar 10:16, 11 November 2007 (EST)
That list of item values says that "all clothes" have a value of 10 and shoes have a value of 15. Should it be "all clothes except shoes" or is the value of shoes actually 10? Bouchart 23:14, 8 December 2007 (EST)
- *phantom spider silk cloth* 76
- +phantom spider silk cloth+ 62
- -phantom spider silk cloth- 48
- phantom spider silk cloth 34
Does anyone know where these values came from? VengefulDonut 12:46, 21 December 2007 (EST)
- Hmm. I think all cloth has a decoration on it. That would explain it. VengefulDonut 13:05, 21 December 2007 (EST)
- Same thing. No decoration. In s versions 33d/e/f/g It's just that. My guess - some error either in code or in our minds :) Dorten 23:32, 9 January 2008 (EST)
- Including an invisible decoration of the same material (but no quality mod) would explain these numbers. VengefulDonut 02:14, 10 January 2008 (EST)
- Same thing. No decoration. In s versions 33d/e/f/g It's just that. My guess - some error either in code or in our minds :) Dorten 23:32, 9 January 2008 (EST)
Shouldnt this page list how decorations change the value of an item as well? Also, if the value of bone and shell is 0 (base) or 1 (multiplier) does that mean that decorating with bone or shell doesnt change the items value? Robje 17:11, 21 January 2008 (EST)
- The base value of a decoration is 10. A bone decoration would increase the value of an object by 1 x 10 = 10. Does that make sense? VengefulDonut 01:12, 22 January 2008 (EST)
- Yes, it does. So the lead goblet example from the article worth 40☼ would be worth 50☼ with some bone decorations, right? It just adds the value of the decorations to the items value, it doesnt multiply anything. Think that should be added to this page? or the decoration page? Robje 11:38, 22 January 2008 (EST)
- It wouldn't hurt to have it on both, as it's quite relevant to both articles. --Edward 20:44, 22 January 2008 (EST)
- Yes, it does. So the lead goblet example from the article worth 40☼ would be worth 50☼ with some bone decorations, right? It just adds the value of the decorations to the items value, it doesnt multiply anything. Think that should be added to this page? or the decoration page? Robje 11:38, 22 January 2008 (EST)
plant 2, cloth 7(+20) ?
Plants
either
pig tail 1 * plant 4 = 4 correct
sun/prickle berry0.5 * plant4 = 2 correct
or
prickle berry1*plant 2= 2 correct
pig tail2 * plant 2 =4 correct
the first option doesn't hold true, since:
pig tail 2 * thread6 = 12 correct
Also, the raws give the value of pigtail as 2, no value for sun/prickel berry, thus 1
Cloth
pig tail2/silk2 * cloth7 would be 14, but is 34
So I suspect ther's a general +20 on cloth, that would also explain the quality level increase (as above):
- *phantom spider silk cloth* 76 = 4*2*7+20
- +phantom spider silk cloth+ 62 = 3*2*7+20
- -phantom spider silk cloth- 48 = 2*2*7 +20
- phantom spider silk cloth 34 = 2*7+20
The base value for clothes is probably tweaked too..
(On a side note, shouldn't phantom spider silk be much more valuable?) --Koltom 14:32, 24 February 2008 (EST)
- a first look into clothes/mittens/gloves/shoes/socks/gauntlets suggests a base 10 for clothes/mittens/gloves plus 40 if from cloth and a base 15 for shoes/socks/gauntlets (again +40 if from cloth).
Prices fit perfectly if compared with leather and bone ware. --Koltom 15:11, 24 February 2008 (EST)
- I suspect giant cave spider silk will mess this up. VengefulDonut 16:46, 24 February 2008 (EST)
- Go away ;P No, yes, i already noticed, doesn't work with giant..but for the rest it's fine. And giant silk is messed up altogether, other than that its mighty valuable, the numbers don't fit at all. Have any thread at hand for comparison? --Koltom 17:03, 24 February 2008 (EST)
- I think the +20 comes from 10 x 2. The 2 is from the cloth value. VengefulDonut 17:09, 24 February 2008 (EST)
- Go away ;P No, yes, i already noticed, doesn't work with giant..but for the rest it's fine. And giant silk is messed up altogether, other than that its mighty valuable, the numbers don't fit at all. Have any thread at hand for comparison? --Koltom 17:03, 24 February 2008 (EST)