40d Talk:Fortress guard

Does anyone have any advice on reasons I should put a new migrant into the Fortress Guard, instead of making him or her a regular soldier, whom I can control better? I assume it gives the Captain a happy thought to have more guards, but other than that, I prefer having a new soldier instead of a new guard. --DDouble 02:39, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Untill he is close to elite status it is probably better to have more guards as I think that the more guards you have - the more chances that a guard will take care of a criminal and not a hammerer. Having elite guards is really totally worthless.--Another 10:02, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Why was this moved from "Fortress guard"? --TangoThree 06:07, 2 February 2008 (EST)

Because Ironxides (talk | contribs) didn't read the wiki naming guidelines and decided it looked better with a capital G. VengefulDonut 11:30, 3 February 2008 (EST)

When I switched a squad to fortress guard, they stopped using the barracks to sleep in but continued to use it for training. Can anyone confirm this behaviour? (39c) Marasmusine 12:01, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

I can confirm that. Guards like private quarters, if they can afford them and they are available, but sparring happens in barracks, period, whether the barracks are defined by beds or by weapon racks or armor stands. --Zombiejustice 22:48, 21 July 2008 (EDT)

In my experience, the number of Royal guard required is not a 1/20 of population, but equals to number of nobles. It also worth noting, that sometimes they will do the job 'Guard <noblename>'--Dorten 03:56, 4 August 2008 (EDT)

Nope, it's 1/20th. It just seems that way because 1/20th will wind up being close to the number of nobles that you'll have. --LegacyCWAL 13:52, 26 December 2008 (EST)

I don't have a captain (didn't assign one), but I still can assign Fortress and Royal Guards. So the first paragraph is misleading? Thanks. Kwieland

Elite guards 'worthless'?

Could someone clarify this issue for me? Do they turn into essentially Philosophers with combat skills after being proclaimed champions? Don't they perform guard duties anymore?

They still perform their guard duties, but you can't move them from being guards, which many would regard as a less-than-ideal situation for their elite dwarves.--Quil 18:04, 20 January 2009 (EST)

Perhaps "effectively useless" is too strong, then? --Aristoi 18:22, 20 January 2009 (EST)

Adjusted.--Quil 18:27, 20 January 2009 (EST)

Elite Fortress Wrestlers Win/Win/Win

Since I don't like it when my fortress guards punish a criminal by cutting or smashing him to pieces I told my fortress guards to fight unarmed. They're heavily armored and never out on guard duty so all they do is sparr in the barracks.
This is an incredibly good thing because they train ALL melee soldiers in wrestling. The swordsdwarf and wrestler skills climb simultaneously but the dwarves always become elite wrestlers (upon which they will put down their weapons and i have to re-assign them) before they become elite swordsdwarves. I can't stress it enough how valuable this is in battle! They dodge like crazy and if they lose their weapons they're no less dangerous!
It's a win/win/Win situation! The civilians survive punishment and the soldiers survives battles! As for the Fortress Guards.. as soon as they reach Elite wrestling status they don't seem to get wounded. Ever. In spite of fighting ARMED soldiers all day long! I have a fortress of 151 dwarves, it's the month after a gobln siege and the nurses are UNEMPLOYED! :D --Aspgren 08:06, 7 Feb 2009 (CET)