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In other words, is the fuel definitely used as a carbon source? I'm pretty sure this used to not be the case. | In other words, is the fuel definitely used as a carbon source? I'm pretty sure this used to not be the case. | ||
| − | + | :Yeah, the production chain part is badly worded, and as far as I can tell is also wrong. When using a non-magma smelter, the coke/coal needed to make the pig iron and the final steel also counts as the fuel. I noticed this when making some plate early on for military dwarves, the normal smelter had chalk, charcoal, pig iron bar, iron bar for the final steel making. When I've got some time, I'll redo the production chain. [[User:Blackcat|Blackcat]] 06:08, 28 August 2008 (EDT) | |
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| + | ::Just tested pig iron and steel making ''again'' to double check. A normal smelter will use one iron bar, one flux and one charcoal to make pig iron. For steel it will use one iron bar, one pig iron bar, one flux and one charcoal. I've cleaned up this page, and I've also added minor notes to the [[smelting]] page. [[User:Blackcat|Blackcat]] 07:30, 28 August 2008 (EDT) | ||
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The damage %age relative to iron of just about everything else (silver weapons, copper weapons, etc.) is listed in the respective article. Do we know it for steel (I've noticed it's missing for adamantine as well,) or how to find it?--Eurytus 9:51 2 April 2008 (EST)
- It is there, though it may not be in a standard location. --Savok 23:53, 2 April 2008 (EDT)
Carbon required?
The math on this page seems to be slightly off.
One carbon (coke or charcoal) is needed to create pig iron, and one to combine iron and pig iron into steel. This assumes a magma smelter.
However, four smelting operations are involved: two to make iron, one to make pig iron, and one to make steel. So if you're using a non-magma smelter, wouldn't this mean four MORE fuel, for a total of six, rather than just four total?
In other words, is the fuel definitely used as a carbon source? I'm pretty sure this used to not be the case.
- Yeah, the production chain part is badly worded, and as far as I can tell is also wrong. When using a non-magma smelter, the coke/coal needed to make the pig iron and the final steel also counts as the fuel. I noticed this when making some plate early on for military dwarves, the normal smelter had chalk, charcoal, pig iron bar, iron bar for the final steel making. When I've got some time, I'll redo the production chain. Blackcat 06:08, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
- Just tested pig iron and steel making again to double check. A normal smelter will use one iron bar, one flux and one charcoal to make pig iron. For steel it will use one iron bar, one pig iron bar, one flux and one charcoal. I've cleaned up this page, and I've also added minor notes to the smelting page. Blackcat 07:30, 28 August 2008 (EDT)