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:::I do see the use of the article (mostly the old one) as a guide - see the [[40d:Make_your_own_weapons|40d version of it]] for what I mean. If it were retitled, cleaned up, and adapted to include blacksmithing and armorsmithing I could definitely see its use as a more heavily-detailed 'forging guide.' The 'metalsmith's forge' page seems too much about the workshop than its purpose to put it there though. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 01:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | :::I do see the use of the article (mostly the old one) as a guide - see the [[40d:Make_your_own_weapons|40d version of it]] for what I mean. If it were retitled, cleaned up, and adapted to include blacksmithing and armorsmithing I could definitely see its use as a more heavily-detailed 'forging guide.' The 'metalsmith's forge' page seems too much about the workshop than its purpose to put it there though. --[[User:Retro|Retro]] 01:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::Not "weapon". This should have a link ''from'' weapon. | ::::Not "weapon". This should have a link ''from'' weapon. | ||
| − | ::::The need for this article ''was'' mainly for the newbie who wanted to save on those damn expensive (300?) axes, which is not as much of a consideration now. But it also walks them thru how to create weapons, which is a bit of a mystery to the new player. True, every subsection is redundant to some other article, but a new player would have to find and digest about 5 different articles to understand what is on this one page - starting build, ore, smelting, weapon, weaponsmith, maybe non-Dwarf's Guide to rock - yay. The title is awkward, agreed, but, sim to the Non-Dwarf's Guide to Rock, it's not a "tier one" article, it's a specialty topic, narrowly focused to one purpose, and expanding on several indirectly associated tier-one concepts. The fact that axes are now less expensive (17 for a wood one!) doesn't mean that it's not useful to the new player.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 20:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | + | ::::The need for this article ''was'' mainly for the newbie who wanted to save on those damn expensive (300?) axes, which is not as much of a consideration now. But it also walks them thru how to create weapons, which is a bit of a mystery to the new player. True, every subsection is redundant to some other article, but a new player would have to find and digest about 5 different articles to understand what is on this one page - starting build, ore, smelting, weapon, weaponsmith, maybe non-Dwarf's Guide to rock - yay. |
| + | ::::The title is awkward, agreed, but, sim to the Non-Dwarf's Guide to Rock, it's not a "tier one" article, it's a specialty topic, narrowly focused to one purpose, and expanding on several indirectly associated tier-one concepts. The fact that axes are now less expensive (17 for a wood one!) doesn't mean that it's not useful to the new player. Reworking it to a "Forging Guide" is a great idea imo - better name, more widely applicable, and the current specific material can be a subsection.--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 20:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
Revision as of 20:13, 7 April 2010
Awkward title?
I get that this is what the 40d article was called, but wouldn't 'Forging Guide' or something similar be better? The current one is awkwardly titled and uses improper grammar anyway (Making your own weapons would be proper). IMO redirecting this to a new Forging Guide page would be better, and with the new version out, right now is the most appropriate time to do so. --Retro 01:27, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- I'm not even sure of the necessity of this article. DF2010:Weapon would probably be a better place for it. Guides should only be made if there is sufficient information that it would clog up the main page on the subject, like bedroom designs. --Mikaka 01:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- I vote we just redirect this to DF2010:Weapon for now, and put all the info there. --Eagle0600 01:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- I do see the use of the article (mostly the old one) as a guide - see the 40d version of it for what I mean. If it were retitled, cleaned up, and adapted to include blacksmithing and armorsmithing I could definitely see its use as a more heavily-detailed 'forging guide.' The 'metalsmith's forge' page seems too much about the workshop than its purpose to put it there though. --Retro 01:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- Not "weapon". This should have a link from weapon.
- The need for this article was mainly for the newbie who wanted to save on those damn expensive (300?) axes, which is not as much of a consideration now. But it also walks them thru how to create weapons, which is a bit of a mystery to the new player. True, every subsection is redundant to some other article, but a new player would have to find and digest about 5 different articles to understand what is on this one page - starting build, ore, smelting, weapon, weaponsmith, maybe non-Dwarf's Guide to rock - yay.
- The title is awkward, agreed, but, sim to the Non-Dwarf's Guide to Rock, it's not a "tier one" article, it's a specialty topic, narrowly focused to one purpose, and expanding on several indirectly associated tier-one concepts. The fact that axes are now less expensive (17 for a wood one!) doesn't mean that it's not useful to the new player. Reworking it to a "Forging Guide" is a great idea imo - better name, more widely applicable, and the current specific material can be a subsection.--Albedo 20:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
- I do see the use of the article (mostly the old one) as a guide - see the 40d version of it for what I mean. If it were retitled, cleaned up, and adapted to include blacksmithing and armorsmithing I could definitely see its use as a more heavily-detailed 'forging guide.' The 'metalsmith's forge' page seems too much about the workshop than its purpose to put it there though. --Retro 01:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC)