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:: Good points, I agree. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:17, 1 November 2007 (EDT) | :: Good points, I agree. --[[User:Mizipzor|Mizipzor]] 15:17, 1 November 2007 (EDT) | ||
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| + | What mechanism is in place to prevent every article from constantly attracting "verify" tags? Compare this to "citation needed" on Wikipedia: the addition of a citation handily prevents (well, hopefully at least deters) future editors from adding another "citation needed" tag. But here, if I spend the time to research a fact/sentence/paragraph/article? marked "verify" and yank the tag, it'll pop back up again as soon as another editor decides that the statement is not glaringly obvious. This results in a perpetual verification cycle that wastes everyone's time and doesn't improve the quality of the wiki. (And, let's be honest: having "verified" the same sentence several times, are you really going to load up the game and check it again every time another editor demands verification? No; you either give up and let some other editor waste his time verifying, or you reflexively remove the "verify" tag making it effectively useless.) | ||
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| + | I would much rather see something like a "disputed" tag--then the burden falls on the tagger to provide at least a basic level of evidence that the statement is incorrect. Making it an "active" process (as opposed to the current "reactive" process) would focus our effort on improving articles instead of constantly spinning our collective wheels. --[[User:Loci|Loci]] 00:05, 18 November 2012 (UTC) | ||
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How about a nice box like template:deletion? --Mizipzor 14:40, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
- Because it is one statement that needs verification - not the entire article. This clearly identifies the statement and also allows multiple verification statements in an article. It is akin to Template:Unreferenced on Wikipedia that puts in "Citation needed". (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/99_Luftballons for an example) --Shagie 14:57, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
- I like it that way, useful but not obtrusive. --Senso 15:03, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
- Good points, I agree. --Mizipzor 15:17, 1 November 2007 (EDT)
Perpetual verification
What mechanism is in place to prevent every article from constantly attracting "verify" tags? Compare this to "citation needed" on Wikipedia: the addition of a citation handily prevents (well, hopefully at least deters) future editors from adding another "citation needed" tag. But here, if I spend the time to research a fact/sentence/paragraph/article? marked "verify" and yank the tag, it'll pop back up again as soon as another editor decides that the statement is not glaringly obvious. This results in a perpetual verification cycle that wastes everyone's time and doesn't improve the quality of the wiki. (And, let's be honest: having "verified" the same sentence several times, are you really going to load up the game and check it again every time another editor demands verification? No; you either give up and let some other editor waste his time verifying, or you reflexively remove the "verify" tag making it effectively useless.)
I would much rather see something like a "disputed" tag--then the burden falls on the tagger to provide at least a basic level of evidence that the statement is incorrect. Making it an "active" process (as opposed to the current "reactive" process) would focus our effort on improving articles instead of constantly spinning our collective wheels. --Loci 00:05, 18 November 2012 (UTC)