v0.31 Talk:Soap

I was under the impression that soap is bugged very badly right now. Specifically, with the introduction of the new "glob" unit, soap is now produced in globs, but every potential use for soap is programmed to use bars. This can be easily fixed:

Open reaction_other.txt in your save raws and/or default raws folder and change

Code: [Select]

[PRODUCT:100:1:GLOB:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:B:SOAP_MAT]

to-->

Code: [Select]

[PRODUCT:100:1:BAR:NONE:GET_MATERIAL_FROM_REAGENT:B:SOAP_MAT]

With the bugfix version, soap is now in bars. --Zombiejustice 16:44, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Fox the Undead, http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=52996.0

If someone wants to post this on the main page, go ahead. I'm still new here and I don't want to mess anything up.

-Theothersteve7 15:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

This command must be entered through the Manager

Why doesn't the Soap Maker allow you to add the task directly? Isn't this a bug missing from the Bug section of the page?

Neebat 18:08, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Is Soap needed?

More specifically what happens if your hospital zone has no soap?

Wounded dwarves won't be cleaned, which (probably) leads to an infection which is very bad. --dUMBELLS 05:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually they will be cleaned but only with water. It probably is more likely they will get an infection without soap. --202.124.123.107 03:01, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, this happened to me, where I had a legendary mason who was injured in a cave-in, and was all patched up and casted at the hospital, but went from faint to pale and then died while resting. The announcement said he died from infection. I decided to try making soap after that one.

Soap Quality Question

Does soap have quality modifiers (like food and statues) or not (like coke and cut gems)? That is to say, do I need to pay attention to the skill levels of my soapmakers?

Buckets?

My dwarves put lye in buckets, but the soaper cancels, asking for lye bearing barrel.

Will they fill the lye in barrels when i have 5? or 10? --92.202.121.225 00:02, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

They'll do it once there's an empty (or lye-containing) barrel sitting in a Food stockpile which accepts lye, though it may take a while before a dwarf takes the initiative to actually do it. A single barrel should be able to hold up to 100 units of lye, assuming it hasn't changed since 40d. --Quietust 00:06, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

I think I've discovered a bit of a bug in regards to this. Dwarves use buckets to clean patients and provide water to wounded & prisoners... but this doesn't use up the entire bucket of water, leaving you with a bucket containing "stagnant water [x]". Lye-makers don't care that the bucket has water in it, so they go ahead and put lye into it, giving you a bucket with both water and lye. Then, said bucket sits in your ashery. Why? Dwarves who want to empty out the lye see the water and forget it, while dwarves who want to use up the water see the lye and forget that. It might've been fixed after .31.04 (what I'm playing with right now). --DeMatt 21:52, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm running .12 and have the same problem. 202.156.10.234 01:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

And again in .14 an .15 (though I hadn't figured out how the buckets were getting filled). What's worse, you can't dump the liquid any more than you can dump blood or ichor out of a barrel. --Romeofalling 07:24, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Still an issue in .16; I'm attempting to get around this by designating a burrow containing an ash stockpile, an empty barrel stockpile, and an empty bucket stockpile, in addition to the ashery, wood furnace, and carpenter's shop. We'll see how this works. Ademrudin 04:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Note: I believe this is fixed in .18 Ademrudin 19:08, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Response to the note up there: no, its not fixed, i run the .18, and i have tons of bucket with both (lye and water) sitting in my lye workshop. :/

Pets

I have several pets (cats and racoons seen so far) carrying around bars of soap in their mouths. I am not sure if it is their "cleaning" task or if it is something else. Matakuka 13:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

how much soap is used

After using some soap does it get used up?

Still bugged?

I'm having no problems with soap in my fortress, I've got soap, I've got dorfs and pets, but no error message spam. I am getting an unable to reach area clean self error, but I'm pretty sure that's cause I need another well or ten, since there's only two tiles that can access my current well.

As far as the lye bucket/barrel issue, I usually use magma forges, so I prefer not to burn wood anyways(not an elf or anything, just would rather use the results of my clearcutting for furniture and cages etc), I just embark with 10 to 25 lye, and request it each time from the caravan, and I've never needed to make any. I'm not even sure of all the steps actually.

I'm using the latest release.--MadGreyOne

The "Urist cancels Clean Self: Area Inaccessible" is the error message spam currently associated with soap. Niveras 01:27, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm noticing now, I was confused by the talk about pets carrying soap in their mouth because the mouth was the only part needing cleaned on the dwarfs generating messages. Then I saw some bloody eyeballs etc too. I have still not seen it from pets, but I'm using cages to keep FPS up so maybe I'm just missing them. Hmmm, makes me wonder if dwarfs have an aversion to washing thier mouths out with soap. I know I wouldn't want to. Great, now we need toothpaste too. Come on guys, you're dwarves that blood in your mouth, that's for next time you get thirsty, haven't you ever gone adventuring. --MadGreyOne

I wasn't getting these messages but I've started getting them. It's obviously associated with specific dirty areas.--58.122.40.118 13:38, 6 December 2010 (UTC)