40d Talk:Dungeon master

Anyone know what triggers the dungeon master now? I have absolutely NO coins whatsoever and he just showed up at the start of my 4th spring. Rpb 11:54, 8 November 2007 (EST)

Is there a point to the image? --Eagle of Fire 01:38, 9 November 2007 (EST)

I think it's there to show what skills the Dungeon Master starts with. Putting the same in plain text would work better, methinks. --Zirik 03:08, 9 November 2007 (EST)

My oppinion also. --Eagle of Fire 00:45, 10 November 2007 (EST)

He showed up here in summer 1055 with the 'normal'/standard skill level in those four skills mentioned in the article (Animal Trainer, Animal Caretaker, Furnace Operator, Metal Crafter). I've got no coins either. Created wealth was around 70k, around 60-70 dwarves. Maybe it's the number of pets? I have 123.--SL 00:43, 11 November 2007 (EST)

Probably not. I got him in 1054 with no more than 25 animals, and had passed 70k wealth long ago so that wasn't it either. Number of dwarves? 1054 would have been the first year after I hit 50 dwarves, which might be the case with yours as well. Rpb 01:36, 11 November 2007 (EST)

When I got him, I had 57 dwarves. The requirement is probably 50 dwarves, we all have that number in common. --Valdemar 10:19, 11 November 2007 (EST)

I dont think the requirement is 50 dwarves, i have the dungeon master arrive when i was nearing the 80 Mark, and had a wealth of around 200k. --Fedaykin 20:48, 15 November 2007 (EST)

Were you nearing the 80 mark BEFORE or AFTER the migration when he showed up? A requirement of 50 dwarves to trigger him would mean you would probably have 70+ dwarves by the time he actually arrives, since he generally shows up at the same time as 20 other immigrants.

It was before the migration ofcourse, ill try it again when i have time Fedaykin 14:44, 17 November 2007 (EST)

My numbers were 68 dwarves (I went from 36 to 60+ in the last wave), roughly 2.7M in wealth (and I'd been over 1M for years) in year 1056 with a moderate number of pets and no coins. I'd also dug to the deepest level the first year, in case folks were considering that as a criterion. I have fought numerous slugmen, goblins and kobolds, but nothing exotic (I had to reload after the dragon arrived and burned everything down). Bear in mind that if there's a pop requirement, then it's important how many you have before the DM arrives, but it's equally important how many you had before the previous wave. Those numbers form the bounds. So if you had 80 before the DM arrived, but 31 of them arrived or were born in that last wave, then this will have been the first time the caravan saw you with 50+ pop. Doctorlucky 01:56, 20 November 2007 (EST)

I think his arrival might be related to your stored animals. He seems to arrive for me whenever I get my first goblin in a cage trap. Moonman 09:04, 21 December 2007 (EST)

I can confirm that he does NOT arrive simply at 50 dwarves. Just got an immigration wave that raised my pop from 52 to 60, and no DM. --Tyrving 02:56, 22 December 2007 (EST)