v0.31 Talk:Combat skill

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Made the page but I really dont know how to lay out wiki pages so :-\... Also, I dont know anything about the actual skill :P I just thought there should be a page for it... --Huggz 00:00, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps the function of "wrestler" has changed, or maybe it's functions have been divided up into multiple skills, due to the new mechanics for wrestling? If that were the case, "fighter" may be somehow derived from there. I mean, "Dodger" was not a skill before, and evasion was partially based on your wrestling skill. --Kydo 05:43, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

This may be one of the things that we'll have to wait on. Might need some 3rd party utilities to parse out what's changing during combat, when it's improved (and hence when it's used), what triggers it, whether it's an adventurer-only thing, etc. Whatever - please don't guess on the main page - that's what this page is for. --Albedo 05:47, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

• I'm getting fighter skill from just sitting there letting an archer shoot at me. It's definitely not just gained from unarmed combat. It also seems to go up with every blocked blow, no matter what type. Confirm? --Sysice 20:08, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
• Maybe fighter skill has to do with parrying and counterattacking - that way some skill is retained when swap from eg. axe-user to sword-user. --TomiTapio 22:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Archer?

Could Archer be the ranged attack equivilent of Fighter? I've seen Bowdwarf, Marksman, and Blowdartsomething... That doesn't leave any other ranged weapon.

I think so. In adventurer mode, it advances at the same rate and time as Thrower. Not tested with bows. 24.22.117.251 22:13, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Wrestling

I thought wrestling is bad, until I managed to PINCH THE HEAD OF A VULTURE OFF! "You grab The Vulture by the head with your right hand! You pinch The Vulture's head with Your right hand! The Vulture has been struck down." I was pretty surprised by it, and repeated it three times with other vulture "volunteers". I am now testing it with a dwarf miner, but it takes its time.--Niggy 22:02, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• Wrestling is not so cool when you get many grab finger, grab toe attacks. With your lower or upper arm, not with hand. Maybe higher wrestling skill lets you grab throats.

"The Lizardfolk Mystic Ranger grabs You by the fourth finger, left hand with his right lower arm!"

"The Lizardfolk Mystic Spearman grabs You by the upper left back tooth with his right upper arm!" --TomiTapio 22:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

• You have to wrestle a certain bodypart. You can do this by manually [A] (don't know how to make that button stuff) pressing enter, and choosing to wrestle the target. Then grab a toe, thooth or the nose with a HAND, not something else and pinch it until it stops being listend. I think this does not work on bigger creatures, as I could easly pinch every toe and most thooth from a ground hog (only left incisors but not right ones) but I can only pinch off the nose of dwarves. --Niggy 08:33, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I made some "tests" with wrestling, that means, I used a superfast, noexert, super strong creature to rape my entire world. With fists. To be a bit more fair, but thats something else. Taking down makes the target prone, but nothing else, it seems. Throwing moves the creature quite a bit through the air, however, bigger creatures won't fly as far as smaller creatures (wolves flew 10 spaces, a giant desert scorpion only 1 space, this was with a modded creature) and throwing has the chance that the creature collides with obstacles and other creatures (even with yourself, I was standing in the middle of the town population when I hit myself with a child, I didn't survived), sometimes creatures blow apart, or break their legs. Pinching is quite powerful, as you can remove mostly everything on your enemy (I had a cougar with only a upper body, lower body and the head left) but you can only pinch off whats on the outside, internal organs (because you can't reach them), mouths, eyes, eyelids, cheeks, lips, and that stuff can't be pinched off and there are some bugs with theeth (left hand can't pinch off right incisiors/eye theeth, but right hand can do it on the first try). If you want you can use this technic to get a backpack full with ground/vultures, maybe even wolf heads (when unmodded), or you can play oldfashioned theeth doctor and remove all theeth from the local elf population (or their noses if you want). With a normal dwarf you can easly pinch off the theeth and noses of other dwarves, and most stuff from smaller animals (heads from vultures and groundhogs) but don't try this on stuff thats bigger then you. Don't. It hurts.

([1] Sadly, that was also a modded adventurer :/ Don't try to repeat) --Niggy 10:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Lasher

What does this do?