40d Talk:Stairs

Looks to me like the "remove down stairs" option is missing. But if you rewall it ([b] - [C] - [w]), and then designate it for "Remove Construction" ([d] - [n]), that works to get rid of it. Or just rewall it and leave it as a wall. --Peristarkawan 20:44, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

You remove down stairs by building a floor ([b] - [C] - [f]) over them. "Down stairs" are just holes in the floor. Valdemar 19:45, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

It seems that building an up/down stairway is the easiest way to build underground. --Vbraun 21:06, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

I'm betting that dwarves can traverse ramps faster than stairs, but I haven't tested this yet. --Peristarkawan 21:18, 29 October 2007 (EDT)

I initially tried creating a ramp to dig upwards, and my miner refused to dig further on the upper level. Stairs work fine.--McFrugal 02:19, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Ramps don't appear to knock out the ceiling of a tile, whereas stairs do. It looks like the main use for ramps is to provide access for anything bigger than a tile wide, such as a wagon or a group of dwarves, and presumably you'll already have access to both levels involved in the rampmaking.--Xazak 19:38, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

on the other hand, they will dig a ramp along with the ceiling, when digging from above.--Dorten 01:13, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Logs and stone(probably more, not fully tested) can not be transported on stairs, limiting their usefulness.

I dug a few levels underground using the shaft method of up/down stairs and trees chopped down on ground level could be carried into the fortress. So Logs can be moved through stairs. --Mizipzor 11:52, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Rocks and any variation thereof can also be moved on stairs. I've been using the top of my mountain as a gigantic rock stockpile.--Xazak 19:38, 2 November 2007 (EDT)

Strange, when I rewalled so that the only access to my tower was a stair I could no longer build floors out of wood that was lying outside. Building another ramp solved the problem, more testing obviously needed Otherdwarf 18:58, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Destroy up-down stairs

Is there any way to destroy carved (not constructed) up-down stair? --Dorten 01:13, 11 January 2008 (EST)

You're kidding right? You just edited an article that answers that (and only that) exact question immediately before editing this talk... --Edward 07:41, 11 January 2008 (EST)

No, I'm not kidding. The stairs article says how to destroy constructed stairs, carved up stairs and carved down stairs. it says nothing about carved up-down stair. neither method worked for me (at least in 33e)--Dorten 08:00, 11 January 2008 (EST)

channeling --Jackard 08:33, 11 January 2008 (EST)

Removing Down Stairs (Again)

The above comments are obsolete with the current version as far as I can tell. I accidentally build a down stair where I meant to have an up stair. Constructing a Up Stair on top of it wouldn't build, and neither would Constructing a Floor. So I tried making a channel through it as suggested above, and this did indeed remove the down stairs, however, it still reads as 'Blocked' when I try to make a floor over the hole. Are there any answers to this? Shadowics 00:30, 1 July 2008 (EDT)