Talk:List of creatures by adult size

Adolescent size?

There is no Adolescent size. Only Birth, Child, Adult. --Jan (talk) 00:32, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

DFfunctions

I think this table (and other creature tables) would benefit from using DFfunctions to get the data directly from the raws, because no will compare and contrast hundreds of entries to catch any small changes since the time this table was created. --Jan (talk) 00:35, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

DFRawFunctions mostly just supports looking up all raws for a single object, and doing that for every creature is impractical (it'd be over 1300 calls, and would probably take too long for the page to render at all). But it's probably possible to do this sort of thing with some extra work on the extension side, or maybe even in Lua now. —Lethosor (talk) 03:35, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Armor/Clothing size limits

In the 2021-06-01 FotF reply (linked to from Clothing#Size), ToadyOne wrote:

I didn't run any tests here, so I could be missing all kinds of things.

For small/large, the formula I see is

wearer creature size <= item creature size * 6/7 means the item is too large

and

wearer creature size >= item creature size * 8/7 means the item is too small

so, the values on this page (50,001, 60,001, 69,999, and 79,999) would appear to disagree and need testing and/or updating. Ziusudra (talk) 02:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

So in 0.47.05 adventurer mode, emu man 52,500 armor is indeed too small for a dwarf, and wolf man 55,000 armor is too small for a 65,000 hyena man. Both of those match what ToadyOne wrote in the 2 FotF replies. A perhaps better test would be to mod in a creatures with base sizes of 51,400 and 68,600 see if they could wear dwarven armor, but I'm going with what ToadyOne wrote for now. Oh, and only the 50,001 and 69,999 numbers need to change. Ziusudra (talk) 03:33, 4 January 2024 (UTC)