Talk:Advanced entity position mechanics

These lines contradict eachother:

• Premature succession works in fortress mode with landholders. If a unit gets a landholdersposition and that landholder is the appointer of an yet-empty position, which is defined as succeeding from a third one, then the succession is immediately applied. The landholder himself can even be the successor of a newly created position.
• A landholder's position is, in fortress mode, not successable by a site-position or visa versa.

Needs further investigation Joostheger (talk)

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A few little comments: 1. A fort founded/reclaimed by the game (not by the player), founded during the two weeks of activation time (of the first player fortress in a world), did give multiple site level positions to the same historical figure (ie. sheriff and mayor). And are still currently (some fifteen years later) held by the same historical figure ("hist figure A"), interestingly for the two positions only histfig2 are filled not histfig (found under entity.positions.positions_assignments for the ids corresponding to the positions in question). In another fort (founded by the game at the same time as the other fort) also two positions were given to the same historical figure ("hist figure B"), but in that case one of the positions (militia commander) was later awarded to another historical figure, eg. someone who was generated as a trader of a dwarven caravan and then settled at that site (no the caravan was not the home civ caravan of the player fortress). So technically both cases were generated during "fortress mode", but then again this makes me wonder, as the world was one with a very short history, if these things are really impossible on the site level with longer histories (during world gen). Also scripts only querying histfig (but not histfig2) will report in these cases the positions as empty (not filled). And to me it seems that a few positions on site level of dwarven sites will always be filled directly after the founding of the site (regardless of whether it is during world gen or afterwards and regardless of whether one histfig will hold multiple positions on a site level or not). Also according to the legends mode the positions in the aforementioned forts were filled in both cases by the dwarf (who is referenced in histfig2).

2. Also is there some information concerning variable positions planned for this article? 91.49.240.46 14:55, 31 January 2026 (UTC)

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Hello Anonymous, Happy to have some discussion about this theme!

1. So, it seems that you've discovered that world-gen units may in fact have sometimes multiple positions, right? Have you read the part about automatic assumption and embark? If you have some insights to share, I'l like to know!

2. Well, I hope so. I did some research about interaction between variable positions and defined positions, but no interaction seems possible. That lowers my interest a bit. However when I have the time, I would like to research whcih positions are created and with what properties. The main goal for me is to gather information to create intesting mods with cool effects.

Joostheger (talk) 15:57, 31 January 2026 (UTC)