40d Talk:Liaison

Any idea how to keep them from staying till they go insane. Every winter my dwarves live in fear of the bruce lee of liaisons going into a martial trance.

At first I thought they'd stay if they didn't get to talk with my broker but having a meeting doesn't help get them out. --Lucid 17:44, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

Make sure you have your broker free long enough to make your demands and to views theirs, it take about 4 meetings between your broker and the liaison. At least that is how I get him to leave --Shades 18:08, 1 November 2007 (EDT)

so THAT'S how you do it, good thing I turned off my expo leader from hunting, the damned liason kept on scaring off the deer [the leader, and broker] was chasing :\

Broker, not Leader?

So it's the broker, not the mayor, that meets with these guys? That changes some things. (I'm trying to keep the Liasons outside of my fortess so they don't know where the traps are, if they ever siege.)

No, its the leader/mayor. --Koltom 11:33, 20 February 2008 (EST)

i have my leader and broker separate(not by choice) in my current fort, and noticed that while the dwarf liaison meets with the leader, the human rep most definately meets with the broker, not the leader. --Chariot 06:57, 9 March 2008 (EDT)

Ditto, my broker keeps meeting with the Liasons (all of them, i think, certainly the human one) despite not having been mayor for something like 5 years (military dwarves always seem to get elected mayor...). In fact, I just annoyed a human liason because my broker (not mayor) entered a strange mood just as the liason entered my fortress (thus promptly leaving).

Now, Diplomats meet with the highest ranking leading noble you have (mayor/baron+/etc...), and I don't know why Diplomat redirects to Liason as humans and elves occasionally send a diplomat to make demands or merely comment 'this is a nice place you've carved out for yourself'.

--Squirrelloid 06:54, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

Ok, I changed this so that it correctly says the human liason meets with your broker. I left the dwarven liason as Mayor but I'm not certain that's true - my one still existent game which is suitably set up to check this otherwise is now the mountainhome, so I'm unable to verify at present. --Squirrelloid 21:07, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

Anecdotal evidence of dwarven liason using Mayor/Exp Leader - I got an initial set of dwarves where they made someone expedition leader who didn't have the broker skills, so exp leader and broker were different dwarves. Dwarven Liason met with Exp Leader. --Squirrelloid 15:55, 18 April 2008 (EDT)

really set off traps?

I have both liaisons walk through a maze of traps every time they visit, never got hurt. Maybe a 38a/b/c bug? What kind of traps were they triggering?--Koltom 23:56, 27 February 2008 (EST)

I'm running DF 38a and every year when the caravans arrive I get a new human corpse to loot. My liasons never make it past my traps (weapon[disc] and stonefall). I wish they would, I'd like to adjust what they bring. Ripheus 21:00, 3 March 2008 (EST)

well known bug for 38a, it was fixed in 38b -Chariot 21:54, 3 March 2008 (EST)

Mine just set off a Trap too. Died. Running verson 40c for mac. --OmegaX 09:19, 20 September 2008 (EDT)

Can't assign new leader; wiki article is incorrect

Leaders are elected and can't be manually chosen. --GreyMario 23:34, 8 March 2008 (EST)

I may be remembering wrong, but I recall my liasons wanting to meet my Broker, who is manually chosen. Ripheus 01:52, 9 March 2008 (EST)

Diplomat

I have an elven diplomat telling my duchess not to cut down more than 55 trees (and calling her short.. a member of Elves for the Ethical Treatment of Trees?). Is this kind of diplomat separate from the trade liaison? The page Diplomat redirects here.. Anydwarf 13:18, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

Yes and no. We should maybe move this page to "diplomat" as both the human and dwarven one (and the elven one? never had one of those although im trying hard *grin*) are called diplomat in the unit list. On the other hand the elves never send a trade diplomat(?) so, yes he is somewhat different, but should be included then... --Koltom 22:37, 28 March 2008 (EDT)

weird trigger for liaison screens

it seems once the meeting has started the usual delay between the screens can be avoided by marking tiles for digging with the mouse - this will cause the screens to pop up during marking (just be careful with pressing space bar) --Koltom 14:29, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

odd behaviour out of season/character

My siege engineer has just spend a while wandering around my fortress with the job "Attend Meeting" even though a) he is not the broker or mayor, b) there are no merchants or liasons on the map. He would go to one place and just stand there doing nothing then walk to another place and repeat. This went on for a while then he just went back to normal. There were other jobs he could have been doing at the time. Most odd. Is this a bug should I report it? Yvain 19:19, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

To clear up a point of confusion the job "Conduct Meeting" is the job assigned to the Mayor,Broker, or Baron/Count. After dwarven economy is running a dwarf might get the job "Attend Meeting". That dwarf seeks a meeting with the Mayor. If the Mayor is busy he will continue to follow the Mayor around until he is free. The solution I found is to switch off the Mayor's labors so he's free to conduct the meeting. The meeting is usually quick and then you'll get the other dwarf working again.--Angus 20:52, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

verified some embarrassment factors

From dwarfort.exe (Name) was embarrassed to have to conduct an official meeting in a dining room. (Name) was very embarrassed to have to conduct an official meeting in a bedroom. Yvain 19:58, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

I would be happier if someone could verify that it is actually _used_ in game, but, well. You see, my palace office never triggered any thought. --Koltom 21:13, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

Try giving them a dining room and no office, koltom. VengefulDonut 14:26, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

I got these unhappy thoughts from meetings conducted in public dining halls that were also designated as meeting halls. (I do not know whether they also happen from nobles' personal dining rooms designated from private tables.) They seem to be very minor unhappy thoughts, so I'm not going out of my way to avoid such designations to keep my idlers from going to hang out by the wagon in the fortresses' early stages. --Brent Not Broken 12:31, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

Liaisons, zoo material?

I want to know whether or not to trap the liaisons before they leave and have them in cages. Should I do this or not?--CrazyMcfobo 19:17, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

hm..

*You can't trap them (unless you mean locking them in a room)

*You can't assign them to cages

If u don't let them leave they will go crazy and your requests for trade items will most likely be ignored

why do you want to trap them? (okay, they are annoying, but also useful) --Koltom 08:41, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

Human Diplomat

Added information about the human diplomat, whom i've seen meeting with my Baron/Count/Duke often enough (4 different games, multiple times in each). They don't seem to do much at present - though I haven't tried to incur a human siege of my fortress to see if they sue for peace if you beat them. I imagine they could theoretically make demands like the elven diplomat does, except they aren't picky about things like cutting down trees. --Squirrelloid 21:07, 17 April 2008 (EDT)

Meeting With Elves

What happens if you choose different option instead of saying yes to whatever they say? The number of trees keep going lower...57....43...37...well they aren't the exact numbers but close to them. I might want to try to fight them once. I've got some ore to melt and I need a good amount of charcoal... They appear every year after cutting too much trees?--Seaneat 23:36, 9 July 2008 (EDT)

liaison - dead and gone? (death of a salesman)

When in the first summer the dwarven caravan arrived with the outpost liaison at my latest fortress, the liason made it savely past the traps but seems to have died just in front of the depot - no blood to be seen, no message in the announcement, just as he had died a natural death. Strange enough, but after I provided him a coffin, in the next year the dwarves came without another liaison. So I disposed the treacherous coffin and bones in my crush-o-mat. But that didn't have any effect either: There didn't come any liaison anymore. In the first place I wonder why he died, and also why he isn't succeeded?!--Doub

Left Unhappily?

I just got a message "Diplomacy Stymied. A diplomat has left unhappy." The last part of the meeting never occured, and my mayor was unable to meet him, due to seige. Was the dwarven diplomat. --OmegaX 17:59, 16 September 2008 (EDT)

Person to meet set when liaison arrives?

When the human liaison arrived this year, I had "Trader Joe" Stukosshed as my Broker. Shortly after, the goblins sieged and Joe got hit by a stray arrow while evacuating. His arm is mangled, so he's resting. I assigned a new broker, but it looks like the Human liaison is holding vigil beside Joe's bed, waiting for him to wake up to run the meeting. -Fuzzy 16:32, 19 September 2008 (EDT)

Liaison dead??

The human guild representative was walking around my fort; he seemed all fine, did not set off any traps. Suddenly, a few (real-life) minutes later, I see a human corpse in my refuse stockpile. He also didn't even have a meeting (note: he died about 2 months after the caravan left). Should I expect a human siege?

Probably, yes. Timst 13:12, 30 October 2008 (EDT)

404 meeting not found

I've got a Village Liaison hanging around near my mayor (who I really want to execute for mandating crystal glass items) and he refuses to take the meeting. Or, at least, I haven't seen any meeting from him yet. What do I need to do to get him to take the meeting? D: (Or should I just execute the bastard along with my mayor?) --GreyMaria 00:38, 19 November 2008 (EST)

First, the obvious: do you have all the mayor's labors disabled? Second: did the mayor change any time recently? I recently had a problem with a guild representative not meeting with my broker... it seems the rep only wanted to meet with my "alternate" broker, whom I had used to trade with the caravan when the primary broker was off sleeping.--Maximus 00:48, 19 November 2008 (EST)

The Village Liaison is standing right next to my activated Mayor on the execution bridge. The Mayor has the Conduct Meeting task active but nothing's happening. --GreyMaria 00:49, 19 November 2008 (EST)

One other possibility: the mayor is waiting to conduct a meeting with a dwarf who wants to complain. Also, try doing some mining designations with the mouse (hold down the button): for some reason this accelerates meetings-in-progress.--Maximus 01:11, 19 November 2008 (EST)

Very unlikely, and attempted that already. I'm about ready to just dump both morons into my lava tube. --GreyMaria 22:38, 20 November 2008 (EST)

Try giving the mayor an office, if he hasn't one already. --Juckto 18:54, 22 November 2008 (EST)

He already has one. --GreyMaria 18:59, 22 November 2008 (EST)

What happens if you draft him, station him in his office, and lock the door? I didn't have this exact problem but this method solved a similar one (my duke was stuck in a sock-storing loop of some sort, and he very reluctantly switched focus to the meeting, eventually, after I locked him and the liason in the duke's office. It took awhile, though, and he complained bitterly about the inaccessible item, first.) --Sev 21:27, 22 November 2008 (EST)

That solution is contradictory to my current situation. --GreyMaria 22:23, 22 November 2008 (EST)

No Liaison?

First year, rather rough terrain, dwarf caravan arrived just fine though but... no liaison? At all? I kind of wanted to request bauxite... I guess I'm glad I brought some with me... Has anyone else had this happen? What's going on? --Squirrelloid 14:15, 21 November 2008 (EST)