Editing 40d Talk:Social skill

After having some of his masterwork crafts stolen by rhesus macaques, my legendary stonecrafter predictably threw a tantrum. However then he went to attend a meeting with the expedition leader, who is a novice pacifier and consoler. After the meeting he calmed down, and his thoughts later showed "He yelled at somebody in charge lately and felt a little better afterward" and "He cried on somebody in charge lately and felt better afterward". Is this what these two skills are used for? --[[User:Harakka|Harakka]] 08:07, 25 November 2007 (EST)

:I am sure that my mayor once became a dabbling pacifier after being yelled at. Not sure about consoler. It also depends on the yelling dwarf's personality as I saw a dwarf who "disliked authorities" with a thought like "He cried on somebody in charge lately but felt only worse". You can probably skill your leader/mayor up by having lots of tantruming dwarves :) And a legendary pacifier would probably cheer your tantruming dwarves all the way to ecstatic in a few seconds :) --[[User:Another|Another]] 08:48, 25 November 2007 (EST)

::I'd THINK that a consoler would either be the skill used for grieving dwarves (Don't worry, it's okay that the Boss accidentally locked your fiancee and infant child in the demonic pit chamber) or for fairly unhappy dwarves. Speculation of course, I've not had my mayor do these things yet. Of course, I have no idea what it is if pacifier is ALSO used when the mayor gets yelled at by extraordinarily unhappy dwarves. Who knows [[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 12:39, 25 November 2007 (EST)

===Gaining Social Skills===
Is it just me, or do ALL dwarves seem to be learning social skills now? It may have to do with the enhanced relationship systems in the latest release, but my dwarves have social skills now. In fact, ''every dwarf in the fortress'' is at least a Dabbling Intimidator/Consoler/Negotiator/Coversationalist/Judge of Intent/Persuader/Pacifier/Comedian.

Sounds like my dwarves are having conversations... and that this gives them social skills. Fun!

:And it also gets them stat upgrades for skillpoints, most of my craft/peasant hauler population spends a lot of time chatting around the tower-cap wagon, and they are all tough/agile/strong/mighty (or more than one :P) --[[User:Frostedfire|Frostedfire]] 04:15, 3 May 2008 (EDT)

::So, learn from the game, kids: spend time talking around the water cooler, and you'll become a bulked-up super-dwarf without ever having to do any real work. Yay for laziness! [[User:Kefkakrazy|Kefkakrazy]] 05:06, 6 May 2008 (EDT)
:::If the kids are learning their lifestyles from DwarfFortress, laziness is the last thing I will worry about.  I don't want to start seeing !!Co-Worker!!s walking caually around setting things on fire.--[[User:Dadamh|Dadamh]] 14:36, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

:My fortress is filled with dwarves who know only how to talk... It was pretty hard to find unexperienced dwarf to make him captain. When children are strong, tough and agile before they even grow up (and I have "farmers only harvest" option set) and competent in 5 skills there's something wrong. --[[User:Someone-else|Someone-else]] 06:47, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

::You must not have many dwarves milling about then, Someone-else. It's not unusual in most forts I run (which focus on key players) to have legendary social skills for the children by the time they grow up. --[[User:N9103|Edward]] 13:05, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

:::I just wish that social skills would be listed below all other skills, its annoying having to sort through all them to check the labor skills on my dwarfs [[User:Diabl0658|Diabl0658]] 12:37, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

Something mentioned on the Legendary page's cross-training skills section (I don't know HTML, so sorry I can't link it) is that some dwarves do not use certain social skills. I think that this rates a section in this page. In related news, I used Dwarf Therapist (I love it) and I can link low friendliness to not using the "Conversation" skill. I have two dwarves who do not use it, and they both have low friendliness ratings, but I have one dwarf who does use it, and has friendliness inactive (most dwarves have most traits inactive, so it defaults to "on"). There were no other candidates of skills that the two had in common and the third did not. I correlated that to all my dwarves with low friendliness skills, and nobody with a less than 40 rating used Conversation. (I had no people with 40-60 ratings.) <small>&ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Waladil|Waladil]]</small>
:See [[Personality]]. Also, ''sign your comments'' (type <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> at the end). --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 17:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
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	Something mentioned on the Legendary page's cross-training skills section (I don't know HTML, so sorry I can't link it) is that some dwarves do not use certain social skills. I think that this rates a section in this page. In related news, I used Dwarf Therapist (I love it) and I can link low friendliness to not using the "Conversation" skill. I have two dwarves who do not use it, and they both have low friendliness ratings, but I have one dwarf who does use it, and has friendliness inactive (most dwarves have most traits inactive, so it defaults to "on"). There were no other candidates of skills that the two had in common and the third did not. I correlated that to all my dwarves with low friendliness skills, and nobody with a less than 40 rating used Conversation. (I had no people with 40-60 ratings.) <small>– [[template:unsigned\|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Waladil\|Waladil]]</small>		Something mentioned on the Legendary page's cross-training skills section (I don't know HTML, so sorry I can't link it) is that some dwarves do not use certain social skills. I think that this rates a section in this page. In related news, I used Dwarf Therapist (I love it) and I can link low friendliness to not using the "Conversation" skill. I have two dwarves who do not use it, and they both have low friendliness ratings, but I have one dwarf who does use it, and has friendliness inactive (most dwarves have most traits inactive, so it defaults to "on"). There were no other candidates of skills that the two had in common and the third did not. I correlated that to all my dwarves with low friendliness skills, and nobody with a less than 40 rating used Conversation. (I had no people with 40-60 ratings.) <small>– [[template:unsigned\|unsigned]] comment by [[User:Waladil\|Waladil]]</small>
−	:See [[Personality]] ~~- it already states that "A 'reserved' dwarf (under 40) never gains experience in the Conversationalist skill"~~. Also, ''sign your comments'' (type <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> at the end). --[[User:Quietust\|Quietust]] 17:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)	+	:See [[Personality]]. Also, ''sign your comments'' (type <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> at the end). --[[User:Quietust\|Quietust]] 17:35, 2 January 2010 (UTC)