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::Well, my logic there is that the "promoted to barony" message always comes first. But from my experience, yes, you get both ''nobles'' always at the same time. Do players ever get a baron without tax collector or the other way round? We might just as well copy all the conditions from baron over here. --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 09:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 
::Well, my logic there is that the "promoted to barony" message always comes first. But from my experience, yes, you get both ''nobles'' always at the same time. Do players ever get a baron without tax collector or the other way round? We might just as well copy all the conditions from baron over here. --[[User:Birthright|Birthright]] 09:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
 
:My current fort (v0.28.181.40d) skipped the barony stage entirely. I got a count, hammerer, tax collector, and philosopher all together, along with the "<x> and the surrounding lands have been made a county" message, without ever so much as seeing a baron. Which is odd, because my exported wealth wasn't much of a change from the last year (+2000), and it was already well over 20K before that... --[[Special:Contributions/64.146.135.21|64.146.135.21]] 01:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
 
:My current fort (v0.28.181.40d) skipped the barony stage entirely. I got a count, hammerer, tax collector, and philosopher all together, along with the "<x> and the surrounding lands have been made a county" message, without ever so much as seeing a baron. Which is odd, because my exported wealth wasn't much of a change from the last year (+2000), and it was already well over 20K before that... --[[Special:Contributions/64.146.135.21|64.146.135.21]] 01:30, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
::Barony -> County is entirely dependent on population, not wealth (that anyone has been able to verify).  80 for Barony, 110 for county.  I believe it only checks at the *start* of an immigration wave, so if you went from 70->100 in one wave, then the next wave you'd get a county message with the count (who would have been the baron first if you'd gotten that message).  County implies barony conditions are met.  (Barony also has a diversity of jobs requirement, so i suppose if you missed that and then satisfied it while satisfying county requirements, you could skip right to county).  --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 06:00, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
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::Barony -> County is entirely dependent on population, not wealth.  80 for Barony, 110 for county.  I believe it only checks at the *start* of an immigration wave, so if you went from 70->100 in one wave, then the next wave you'd get a county message with the count (who would have been the baron first if you'd gotten that message).  County implies barony conditions are met.  (Barony also has a diversity of jobs requirement, so i suppose if you missed that and then satisfied it while satisfying county requirements, you could skip right to county).  --[[User:Squirrelloid|Squirrelloid]] 06:00, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

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