Editing Category talk:DF2012:Creatures

Since this is a category for [[creature]]s, I believe it should be limited to actual creature pages. Adding pages that "relate" to creatures (such as [[status icons]], titles like [[King of beasts]], etc.) is problematic for a number of reasons. There are already 500+ pages in this category; ancillary pages in the category are very likely to be "lost in the shuffle". (Who's going to search a list of creatures for information on status icons?) It also reduces the usefulness of the category for finding actual creatures. (How many creatures are in Dwarf Fortress? 564, minus however many non-creature pages are currently in the creatures category.) Finally, since Dwarf Fortress is a game about creatures, pretty much every article on the wiki is "related to creatures" in some manner--recreating [[Special:AllPages]] isn't valuable to anyone. --[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 19:21, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Since this is a category for [[creature]]s, I believe it should be limited to actual creature pages. Adding pages that "relate" to creatures (such as [[status icons]], titles like [[King of beasts]], etc.) is problematic for a number of reasons. There are already 500+ pages in this category; ancillary pages in the category are very likely to be "lost in the shuffle". (Who's going to search a list of creatures for information on status icons?) It also reduces the usefulness of the category for finding actual creatures. (How many creatures are in Dwarf Fortress? 564, minus however many non-creature pages are currently in the creatures category.) Finally, since Dwarf Fortress is a game about creatures, pretty much every article on the wiki is "related to creatures" in some manner--recreating [[Special:AllPages]] isn't valuable to anyone. --[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 19:21, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

* Full, non-comparison alphabet lists are useless to human searchers in any case. Nobody is going to manually look up hundreds articles from A to X (unless he is checking all of them anyway). It's totally innefective way to search. Especially since there is regular searchbox for searching by name, semi-categorized sortable comparison tables, and, by now, useful and human searcheable lists in subcategories for searching by trait (great thing!). Ergo, main category should be freed for related, more general/inportant stuff, and creatures themselves should stay in trait related lists.<br />"since Dwarf Fortress is a game about creatures" - creatures are regular content, moddable one, general mechanics are more important wikiwise and should not be stuffed "somewhere deeper". [[User:AO|AO]] ([[User talk:AO|talk]]) 20:41, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

* Full, non-comparison alphabet lists are useless to human searchers in any case. Nobody is going to manually look up hundreds articles from A to X (unless he is checking all of them anyway). It's totally innefective way to search. Especially since there is regular searchbox for searching by name, semi-categorized sortable comparison tables, and, by now, useful and human searcheable lists in subcategories for searching by trait (great thing!). Ergo, main category should be freed for related, more general/inportant stuff, and creatures themselves should stay in trait related lists.<br />"since Dwarf Fortress is a game about creatures" - creatures are regular content, moddable one, general mechanics are more important wikiwise and should not be stuffed "somewhere deeper". [[User:AO|AO]] ([[User talk:AO|talk]]) 20:41, 23 July 2013 (UTC)