Editing DF2014 Talk:Alcohol

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My brewers (The elves help a tiny bit) wish to contribute to !!Science!! :: 
Mango -> Mango Wine ::
Guava -> Guava Wine ::
Date -> Date Wine
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:Added. Thanks! &mdash;[[User:Lethosor|<span style="color:#074">Lethosor</span>]] ([[User talk:Lethosor|<span style="color:#092">talk</span>]]) 19:28, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

==Confusion Regarding Fruit Alcohol==

There seems to be a general lack of agreement across the wiki right now in regards to alcohol from several fruit, and I lack the knowledge to conduct proper Dwarven science. For example, the [[Crop]]s page notes that Grapes can be brewed into Wine and that Pineapples can be brewed into Pineapple Wine, which this page does not list. Since stockpiles seem to treat the plant and the fruit separately, this begs the question of which is being used to create the alcohol. Similarly, the [[Persimmon]] page notes that the byproducts of the tree (namely the fruit) can be brewed, though it doesn't give a specific name (I'm assuming it's Persimmon Wine), which this page does not reflect. Given the introduction of so many new plants, some Dwarven Science is probably in order, and then we need to seek to get all the various pages agreeing with one another. --[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] ([[User talk:Rotaretilbo|talk]]) 03:23, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
:I just realized a great deal more alcohol is missing from this page than I originally thought. For clarity, the alcohol stockpile in game lists the following drinks which this page does not reflect: Single-grain Wheat Beer, Two-grain Wheat Beer, Soft Wheat Beer, Hard Wheat Beer, Buckwehat Beer, Sorghum Beer, Maize Beer, Blood Amaranth Beer, Purple Amaranth Beer, Pearl Millet Beer, Foxtail Millet Beer, Fonio Beer, Teff Beer, Artichoke Wine, Beetroot Wine, Carrot Wine, Potato Wine, Tomato Wine, Turnip Wine, (Grape) Wine, Pineapple Wine, Carambola Wine, Durian Wine, Rambutan Wine, Pomegranate Wine, and Persimmon Wine. Thankfully, it's pretty straightforward what all these new beverages are made from, with only "Wine" being ambiguous. --[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] ([[User talk:Rotaretilbo|talk]]) 03:51, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
::I went ahead and added everything that was missing (except Carrot Wine, which apparently wasn't missing). However, I'm not sure how to determine base value, so I just put a '?' for that line in all the new entries. I also reorganized everything, as a lot of the new plants were being listed incorrectly as fruit. I'm fairly sure that fruit refers specifically to the droppings of trees, at least. It's past midnight and I can't be bothered to launch the game and check stockpiles, but I have a sneaking suspicion that things like berries, pineapples, and the like (probably all the garden plants) are listed both as plants and fruit now that I think about it. Of course, it begs the question whether the "plant" version or the "fruit" version is used to brew, and whether the "brew plant" or "brew fruit" task is used to make the alcohol. As I mentioned before, I lack the knowledge to conduct proper Dwarven science, so maybe someone can look into that?--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] ([[User talk:Rotaretilbo|talk]]) 07:18, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
:::[[wikipedia:fruit|Fruit]] is not limited to the products of trees, but a good benchmark for this page is whether the game uses the "brew plant" or "brew fruit" reaction.  Specifically, if the plant's raws have a '[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:FRUIT:FRUIT_TEMPLATE]' with a '	[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:DRINK_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]' tag then they produce a fruit-based alcohol. [[Strawberry|Strawberries]], for instance, were updated with "fruit" tags, and can only be brewed as fruit in this version.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 20:34, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
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 ::I went ahead and added everything that was missing (except Carrot Wine, which apparently wasn't missing). However, I'm not sure how to determine base value, so I just put a '?' for that line in all the new entries. I also reorganized everything, as a lot of the new plants were being listed incorrectly as fruit. I'm fairly sure that fruit refers specifically to the droppings of trees, at least. It's past midnight and I can't be bothered to launch the game and check stockpiles, but I have a sneaking suspicion that things like berries, pineapples, and the like (probably all the garden plants) are listed both as plants and fruit now that I think about it. Of course, it begs the question whether the "plant" version or the "fruit" version is used to brew, and whether the "brew plant" or "brew fruit" task is used to make the alcohol. As I mentioned before, I lack the knowledge to conduct proper Dwarven science, so maybe someone can look into that?--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] ([[User talk:Rotaretilbo|talk]]) 07:18, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
 :::[[wikipedia:fruit|Fruit]] is not limited to the products of trees, but a good benchmark for this page is whether the game uses the "brew plant" or "brew fruit" reaction.  Specifically, if the plant's raws have a '[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:FRUIT:FRUIT_TEMPLATE]' with a '	[MATERIAL_REACTION_PRODUCT:DRINK_MAT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:DRINK]' tag then they produce a fruit-based alcohol. [[Strawberry|Strawberries]], for instance, were updated with "fruit" tags, and can only be brewed as fruit in this version.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 20:34, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
-::::Ah, I hadn't considered looking in the raws. I'll keep that in mind next time I do an edit on this scale. Thanks for fixing it in the meantime, though.--[[User:Rotaretilbo|Rotaretilbo]] ([[User talk:Rotaretilbo|talk]]) 01:25, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
-== Tea for the Road ==
-I know this is a very elven thing to ask... but it is possible to brew tea using Tea Leaves? (it should be, if it isnt already)
-and as a second question, is there any known way to brew in Adventure Mode
-[[User:DisK|DisK]] ([[User talk:DisK|talk]]) 07:57, 14 September 2017 (UTC)