DF2014 Talk:Topic

We aren't even half way there

There are around 130 innovations/topics/technologies listed so far. Toady says there are around 300.

Techniques for researching:

• Turn entire Fortress into scholars
• Monitor what they discuss / ponder every few minutes
• Record the innovation name and description (Press j when highlighting the dwarf in the unit list to see the description)
• Might be best to do this in several worlds generated with longer histories

I also went through Legends mode and sorted through a crap load of books (under artifacts), but this way doesn't always give you the innovation name. And it's a pain.

Any other suggestions? Brightgalrs (talk) 16:18, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Writing books in adv mode is also a good way to do it. Untrustedlife (talk) 17:07, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Didn't think of that. Very nice.Brightgalrs (talk) 17:21, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Ah, having not played fortress mode in the new release, I didn't realize that there were official names for the topics. I just thought the name was supposed to briefly describe the topic. I will remove the names from all the topics I have added. One good thing about using legends mode is that you know for certain which field a topic is a part of, since it says stuff like, "In 88, Sut became a philosopher in Hawktwinkle." "In the early summer of 91, Sut independently discovered discourse on medical ethics." That could have conceivably been a medical science innovation, but obviously since Sut was a philosopher, it is a philosophy inovation. --Figwat (talk) 05:57, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Lots of knowledge flags have been added to df-structures recently. I don't know how the names were found or how reliable the information is, but it might be a good starting point for the full list of topics. --FortressBuilder (talk) 15:57, 18 December 2015 (UTC)

Used this list to complete the list in the article. Some of the names are probably wrong, however.Brightgalrs (talk) 06:22, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Maybe we could look for the correct strings in the exe file? Version 0.42.06 seems to have them around offset 0xB72AA0. FortressBuilder (talk) 12:07, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Reminders

• Record both the name and description
• The description should be all words after "The topic being discussed concerns..." or whatever it is.
• Try to sort the innovation in the right section of this article
• If it isn't obvious which it fits under (or it seems fits under multiple) just put it in the "unsorted" section
• More research will be done when Dwarf Therapist is updated
  • In particular, monitoring dwarf's skill gain to pinpoint the correct branch(s) a topic should be sorted under.

Brightgalrs (talk) 16:27, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Names of Innovations

Apparently there are different names the innovations/topics/technologies are called in different fortresses. Example:

The Screw	The construction and use of the screw
Screws within Reason	The construction and use of the screw

Are they the same?

Do we keep both / combine them / try to find a more common name? Another example of how it is currently handled on the page:

Gear Mechanics Gears

The reasons why gears are effective

Ashameron (talk) 11:19, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Are you sure "Screws within Reason" is not a title of a book or something? Brightgalrs (talk) 06:22, 27 February 2016 (UTC)