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::: I've got something to do today, but if no one has done it yet, I'll try to get something available later tonight for people. --[[User:Corc|Corc]] 11:42, 18 July 2008 (EDT)

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Suggested Addition(s)

How hard would it be to adapt Regional Prospector 1 2 to this application?
From what I've seen of your newest tool, it looks like it should become the standard for future 'tweaks' :p
Thanks tons for your contributions to the cause! --Edward 19:41, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

Oh, and one other idea... Perhaps a small readme/guide for each of the tools?
Something like those on the Utilities page would be fine.

It could probably be easily ported but I'm not sure I want to take someone elses work so quickly for Tweak. I am working on that kind of a list (see the Tile Edit link on the core modules list). —Rick 19:49, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
List? RP doesn't make lists that I know of. And I know TileEdit can create magma/lava (which one is it btw? lava I'm guessing, since I don't think it can create a replenishing pipe in it's current form.) but unless I really get desperate, I'm not going to make a huge pool of lava to tap for various oddities. (i.e. traps/constructions) TileEdit's great for occasionally making a single tile of the stuff when it'd otherwise be a pain to get the liquid to the desired point, or for replenishing an already small source. Unless you're planning on making TileEdit capable of modifying regional tiles, (or alternatively, working like a designation for many tiles at once...) I don't see how it could relate to what RP does. --Edward 17:31, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
As far as I can tell, the list in question is a list of readmes/guides like those on the Utilities page.
Magma = lava in an underground square. Lava = magma in an aboveground square. They are identical in all but name. --Savok 19:52, 29 March 2008 (EDT)
Is there an as yet unidentified flag that causes replenishment? --Edward 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
By 'list' I meant looking up what mineral types, etc, are in the current map. The module is called 'Survey', for obvious reasons. —Rick 00:39, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
Hmm.. well, unless you plan on doing that at an embark level, (as opposed to the in-fort level it sounds like,) it still won't be duplicating any effects that RP currently does. --Edward 00:15, 31 March 2008 (EDT)
I don't intend to duplicate the features of it. —Rick 01:04, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

Help for the Noob(s)

Just downloaded the tweaker after some confusion, for the sake of healing the sole broker of my fort so he can get up and trade smartly enough to save my fort (to be filled with lava, but that's beside the point). Once I started it on up, all the modules but the address lookup were red, and the lookup only turns up <address name="starting_dwarf_count" value="0x00f77927"'.

I'm not entirely sure where to go from here... Any guide forthcoming?

Red modules mean they are incompatible, I'm going to assume you are running on .38b, the latest is .38c, which Tweak has full support for. I did not bother to provide full support for .38b. —Rick 05:34, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

Error report

For some reason, the latest version (1.2.0.1) crashes whenever I try to run it. This is with or without DF running. Version 1.1.0.0 on the other hand worked fine for me, and still does. This is the debugging info returned for the crash in 1.2.0.1:

An unhandled exception of type 'System.IO.FileNotFoundException' occurred in Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.exe

Additional information: Could not load file or assembly
'System.Core, Version=3.5.0.0, Culture=neutral,  PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089'
or one of its dependencies. The system cannot find the file specified.

This is with it directly extracted from the zip with proper folder structure, no changes made. I've also tried moving it out to a root folder on the drive in case the long path was confusing it with no success. --Janus 01:04, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Sounds like you don't have .NET 3.5 installed. —Rick 01:53, 1 April 2008 (EDT)
Did version 1.1.0.0 not require it? That version has been working fine, and I could have sworn I had to install the .NET 3.5 Framework to get it working.
However, whatever the case, I've just (re?)installed the 3.5 framework and that does indeed seem to have taken care of it. Thanks. --Janus 02:38, 1 April 2008 (EDT)
I wasn't using any features of 3.5 yet -- which changed with 1.2.0.0. —Rick 03:40, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

Found an error in the adjust profile module, happens when I click the "reset profile" button when "reset/read/write all" is checked.

 System.ArgumentException: 'child' is not a child control of this parent.
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child, Boolean throwException)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlCollection.GetChildIndex(Control child)
  at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.textBox_TextChanged(Object sender, EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.OnTextChanged(EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.set_Text(String value)
  at System.Windows.Forms.TextBoxBase.set_Text(String value)
  at System.Windows.Forms.TextBox.set_Text(String value)
  at Rinn.DwarfFortress.Tools.AdjustProfile.Configuration.buttonReset_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnClick(EventArgs e)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Button.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mevent)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.ButtonBase.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Button.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
  at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

Cheapweed 18:01, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

Please report that on Rinn's AdjustProfile talk pageRick 22:33, 12 April 2008 (EDT)

NET 3.5 Compatability

Just a quick FYI: Those of us on 2000 cannot (as far as I've been able to determine) install .NET 3.5, which makes it impossible to use the latest version of Tweak. Keeping the 1.1 version online maintains availability of this invaluable tool to those of us who refuse to be infected with the XP virus. —Rochndil 14:49, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

While I do use .NET 3.5 features, I will see if I can move to .NET 2.0 (or make a 2.0 compatible version). —Rick 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
Or leave it. Seeing as its an 8 year old Operating system that you can't buy any more. More to the point if you are running DF your computer is more than adequate for running Windows XP. --Gorfob 19:00, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

Blue modules

I just installed Tweak for the first time and I seem to have a problem. The buttons beside all the modules are blue, not green like in the picture, and the modules don't appear to do anything. I am running DF version 0.27.176.38c and Tweak version 1.2.0.0. I tied to update to version 1.2.0.1 but it still shows as the old version.

If your Tile Edit is 1.1, not 1.0, you have 1.2.0.1. As for blue modules, you need to 'Select Process' before you can use anything. There is an option to automatically select a process on startup. Once you do this, modules will either turn red or green as like before. —Rick 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Windows Installer 3.1

It says I need Windows Installer 3.1. Help? --Savok 19:12, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Tweak does, or the .NET 3.5 install does? —Rick 22:58, 3 April 2008 (EDT)
Sorry. .NET 3.5 install does. --Savok 11:41, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
What operating system are you using? Windows Installer 3.1 RedistributableRick 12:16, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
Windows XP Home Edition Version 2002 Service Pack 2.
Out of curiosity, what does that 3.1 installer do? --Savok 15:55, 4 April 2008 (EDT)
It's for MSI installers I would assume. Though I'm not sure how you don't have the Windows Installer 3.1 on XP. —Rick 22:49, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Freezing Tile Edit

For some reason, whenever I edit a tile using the Tile Edit programme, the next dwarf to step on the tile freezes to death (as will the many dwarves who come to loot the corpse). In the tile edit window, in the temperature section, it shows 0 in the first box (always) and another number of around 12000 in the second. The values by themselves give no indication as to the temperature, and even when I leave them alone, simply changing the tile will result in it becoming a freezing tile of death. I have no idea if anyone else is experiencing this with tile edit, or whether I'm doing something horribly wrong. unsigned comment by Maw3193

I get this whenever I try to add water to a square. The water freezes into a block of absolute-zero ice, and freezes to death anybody who steps on it. It doesn't happen when I add magma, or change magma depth. The title bar says version 1.2.0.0, but TileEdit is 1.1 so I guess it's actually 1.2.0.1 (see above) Anydwarf 12:56, 17 April 2008 (EDT)
Tile Edit is broken like this. You need to manually set a temperature for EVERY tile you edit. Rick, fix it! >8( --GreyMario 15:44, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
Also, as an addendum, the top temperature is the NEW temperature for the tile, the bottom temperature is the CURRENT temperature. --GreyMario 15:45, 3 May 2008 (EDT)
It's not just absolute-zero. According to the Dwarf Fortress temperature scale, it's over nine thousand degrees below absolute-zero :) unsigned comment by Maw3193
Before editing any of the tile, press Reset first, it should fill the first temperature in for you. --SP2 19:20, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
Still doesn't work for me, I've tried all of this. I've set the temperature about five different times.. still the freezing tile of DOOM. --Jaxstrife 20:51, 7 May 2008 (EDT)
I've identified the bug and it will be fixed in the next release. —Rick 08:16, 9 May 2008 (EDT)

Developer page

I'm interested in making a module for Tweak, will there be more info soon about contributing to it? (if there is a page I couldn't find that talks about it, feel free to let me know :) --Corc

There hasn't really been any demand for it, but now that there is I'll fill out some info for you. —Rick 01:33, 27 April 2008 (EDT)
I've added some preliminary information to the development page. —Rick 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

How easy would it be to get started with writing a module? I assume Tweak handles the memory editing, but does it hand the module a bunch of bytes, or a fully parsed structure? I'd be interested in at least trying to write up a module.. Maybe you could just post the source for Heal or one of the other simple modules. Anydwarf 18:57, 29 April 2008 (EDT)

I would just like to add my vote for a .NET 2.0 version since 3+ causes severe problems on my system trying to connect to M$ all the time :P

I downloaded 3.5 and even got the express versions of Visual Studio to play with. I believe there is an option to "check" when you install that will stop it from contacting MS--I was asked a few times.
--Corc 23:57, 28 April 2008 (EDT)
Tweak's memory access doesn't deal with structures, but does allow for easy reading of common data types (and raw memory, if that's your deal). Reading structures may come in the future, though. —Rick 17:41, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

Adjust Start: Less Than Seven Dwarves Crashes Game Upon Embarking

Crash replicated on two different computers both running windows XP both using .38c version of DF. Different parameter set worlds and different local areas still results in crash, as does both embarking carefully and not carefully. When it crashes I get an error message from windows saying that "dwarffort.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close." I have tested this for 1, 4, and 6 dwarves with the game crashing, and found that with 10 dwarves it did not crash.

Reveal

(Debated about putting this here or on your sample code discussion.) To test out making a new module (very easy btw, awesome) I modified reveal to just reveal interesting stuff like ore and gems. Instead of releasing a whole new (very similar and 99% your code) module maybe you could add a quick if statement/popup that people could check when they run it? Basically what I did was inside the nested for loops I added in getting the "type" data and if the type was for an event, B8 01, then I'd let it do your unhide bit.

memory.Read(block + designation, ref data);
memory.Read(block + typeoffset, ref types); // added types, half the size of data, (256 * 2)
for (int i = 0; i < 16 * 16; i++)
{
   byte[] temp = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToInt16(types, i * 2)); // actual type
   if (temp[0] == 184) // I found that 0xB8 is all that is needed to check
   {
      byte[] newdata = BitConverter.GetBytes(BitConverter.ToUInt32(data, i * 4) & ~0x200);
      data[(i * 4) + 0] = newdata[0];
      data[(i * 4) + 1] = newdata[1];
      data[(i * 4) + 2] = newdata[2];
      data[(i * 4) + 3] = newdata[3];   
   }
}

This unhides only Gems, Ore, "Special" Stone like Orthocast, adamantine and any other out of the ordinary biome stone.

I thought about making a crazy convoluted module that would scan the map for types of events and let the user enable the ones they wanted unhidden and then unhide them. But, after going into the event list and finding event IDs (I've got a complete list now) I found it to be too crazy... actually as I typed that I figured out how I could do it with about a forth of what I had coded earlier. --Corc 04:04, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

.NET install freeze?

Does .NET ever finish installing? As I write this it's been sitting with a full progress bar for 35 minutes, and took an inordinate amount of time to even get there. (And the bootstrap downloader was completely unusable, kept losing progress.)
As far as I can tell, it's not even spinning the HDD... though it went through long periods of that before, too.
Addendum: Rebooting on its own didn't help, but rebooting and aggressively killing running processes down to the bare-bones did... finally.unsigned comment by Shurhaian

That's some highly unusual behavior, and I would recommend a through virus and adware scan using atleast two versions of each.
For Viruses, Trend Micro has a good online scanner, and AVG is a good offline scanner.
For Adware, Spybot S&D is just about as good as it gets, and Microsoft has a semi-decent one as well.
All of these are free. Hope this helps! If not, *could be* some core OS files have been damaged somehow, and *may* require a re-install. --Edward 21:40, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

Another on the 3.5 bug list

Allright; I have .net Framework 3.5 installed and its giving me the same error a guy midway up had; the.......... IO.notfound thing

Okay scratch that i unzipped tweak again and its running fine. it seems tweak doesnt like XP.

Your program has good tastes sir.

Problem not otherwise found on here.

When trying to select a process, I get this error. Net framework 3.5 is installed.

************** Exception Text **************
System.Reflection.TargetInvocationException: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. ---> System.InvalidOperationException: This implementation is not part of the Windows Platform FIPS validated cryptographic algorithms.
   at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5CryptoServiceProvider..ctor()
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at System.RuntimeMethodHandle._InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct& signature, IntPtr declaringType)
   at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeConstructor(Object[] args, SignatureStruct signature, RuntimeTypeHandle declaringType)
   at System.Reflection.RuntimeConstructorInfo.Invoke(BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture)
   at System.Security.Cryptography.CryptoConfig.CreateFromName(String name, Object[] args)
   at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create(String algName)
   at System.Security.Cryptography.MD5.Create()
   at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.GameVersionLoader.GetProcessHash(Process process)
   at Gibbed.DwarfFortress.Tweak.ModulePicker.onSelectProcess(Object sender, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripButton.OnClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEventInteractive(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.FireEvent(EventArgs e, ToolStripItemEventType met)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ScrollableControl.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.OnMessage(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Control.ControlNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
What version of windows are you running? —Rick 20:47, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

.NET 3.5 errors: Tweak not Vista compatiale?

I have installed .NET 3.5 and tried to run Tweak on my computer. However, It instantly crashes. Is there anything else I should have installed? I am running windows Vista.

Thanks.

Can you please paste the exact error, I cannot help with problems without knowing specifics. —Rick 20:46, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

I Have the exact same problem, the error is the default vista error. i think this only happens with the newest version of tweak, as i used to beable to run it (though the tile editor never ran for me) —Corhen 8:55, 15 July 2008

Start Error

Opening Tweak, the program crashes. There's no error message per se, it just doesn't open and give the default windows error message, and asks me if I want to send a report. Help?

you need to install separately .NET 1.1 as well as .NET 2.0, .NET 3.5 does not install these previous versions....

Even with all versions of .NET that exist already installed, Tweak crashed on startup. I am using an up-to-date version of WinXP SP3. I hope that it causes no problems that I unfortunately have a German language version of XP. Proof of installed .NET versions: http://members.arstechnica.com/x/dio82/software.png

Error message:

EventType : clr20r3 P1 : gibbed.dwarffortress.tweak.exe P2 : 1.2.0.0 P3 : 47f19dc1 P4 : mscorlib P5 : 2.0.0.0 P6 : 471ebc5b P7 : 3404 P8 : 119 P9 : system.io.directorynotfound

Many thanks to potential fixes -Dio82 08:36, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

I'd just like to note that I also have all three .NET versions downloaded and installed, and I still get the general Windows Vista error message (Tweak has stopped working, windows is searching for a solution... A program caused the program to stop working, windows will close the program). I've tried starting up Tweak before loading DF, during the DF title screen, and while playing a current fortress. I didn't, however, get the detailed error message described above. --Untelligent 21:57, 4 July 2008 (EDT)

The above error message is part of the report that XP/Vista wants to send to Microsoft. Just click on details of the report when Vista prompts you about sending that report. --Dio82 06:05, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
It didn't prompt me for sending a report. --Untelligent 16:17, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
This error is basically saying you did not extract Tweak correctly, the Tweak zip file contains several directories that Tweak needs to function correctly. —Rick 20:46, 13 July 2008 (EDT)

Reveal and Profile Edit Issue

I've downloaded your program and managed to get a few features working, such as the one that allows you to change your starting dwarf number and points. The two modules I wanted to use most, however, Reveal and Profile Edit, don't seem to want to work at all, and as far as I can tell, I'm not getting a program error so much as... I don't know, a failure to recognize something. I'm not a programmer, you'll notice.

When attempting to use Reveal at the regional map, I get this.

When attempting to use the Profile Editor at the "preparing carefully" screen, as it says, I get this, and if I click the OK button it says this.

Apologies for the largish screenshots. Any idea what might help? --Anfini 15:57, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

The Reveal tool is only used while already embarked. Find a place to start your fortress, embark, and then run Reveal. And, keep in mind if you want to reveal all of the map you have to designate the bottom layer for digging completely then undesignated it BEFORE you run reveal--this will make DF load up the map for Reveal to find. As for the other errors, I'm not sure what is going on. Sorry. --Corc 18:36, 11 July 2008 (EDT)
Thanks for the help with Reveal, that worked perfectly. I suppose I misunderstood the module. The Profile dealie is the one I really want to use, though! If anyone has insight on how to work it, I would be grateful. Thanks! --Anfini 19:24, 11 July 2008 (EDT)

Tile Edit Tile ID List

Further explorations with Tweak leave me convinced we're missing another memory location that holds each block's type. Sandy clay Wall in one area doesn't match up with the data I gathered for my table of IDs, and there isn't enough data to be customized in Tile Edit to account for all the possibilities of ores and gems. Unfortunately I'm not knowledgable enough, nor am I patient enough, to find this memory location. →Valarnin 19:37, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

Tile composition and gem type are special cases that are not held in tile data, and they have not been completely understood. —Rick 19:58, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
Actually Gems and ore are understood. They are considered Events (from the memory hack page terms) and are flagged by a bitmap. The code sample I posted above, to add in finding only deposits of ore to Reveal, uses another 16x16 array to specify quickly that an event is taking place in that tile--then checks the bitmaps for what kind of ore (gem/ore/whatever) goes there. The events use the global tile ids which it gets from the raw files (and is in the order read in from those raw files). Using events you can add any type of deposit to the tile area (add sand to obsidian). When I was looking into the TileIDs I came to the conclusion that the IDs are in a pattern and the type of rock/soil is dependent on the biome set for that tile. IDs X -> Y for example will always be smooth walls, just of main biome material. What designates the Biome is probably another one of the 16x16 blocks of data--I just got on a side track and never figured out which one for sure. To test/confirm this, try finding a value that changes a stone type to a soil type then give that same soil TileID to a different kind of stone on another layer--it should turn into a soil type as well, but most likely not the same kind as before. Doing that on the first 2 layers of the map will make it easier since it usually has both rock and soil from the same biome. I started documenting this on my user page. --Corc 20:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm not sure why you wrote that blurb instead of linking to my page on it. I know the gem stuff is known, I should have been more clear, I meant the composition/type regional layer muckery. —Rick 20:51, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
Sorry 'bout that. Which page are you talking about? There are so many, that when I was looking for info I really didn't know where to look for valid info. I wrote the blurb because he was talking about gems and ore specifically, and I guess I misunderstood your response. --Corc 21:34, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
User:Rick/Memory_research#Mineral_EventRick 22:01, 16 July 2008 (EDT)
OK, great, I wasn't sure if there was a newer one made. Now Valarnin has a link and a short explanation to go with it. So now he may be inspired to continue having fun digging in the memory :) --Corc 00:38, 17 July 2008 (EDT)
I'm not sure I understand exactly what's going on there. Is the vector a pointer to the mineral event's location? It would be so much easier if this was mapped out in Tile Edit. Speaking of Tile Edit, is the source available? I may be able to modify it to show the extra info. →Valarnin 13:37, 17 July 2008 (EDT)
Okay, I built Corc's modification to Reveal and learned a bit from that, but I have no example of a GUI and I'm a C++ programmer, not a C# programmer. I need an example of a GUI. →Valarnin 14:11, 17 July 2008 (EDT)
I was trying to do something similar myself. Just in case you didn't see it, here is a link to Rick's Dev discussion (User_Talk:Rick/Tweak/Development) which might be a better place to talk about all this. What I did was just go through the c# gui sample and copy and paste stuff in while reading about what does what. --Corc 14:26, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

New Versions

Any Idea when we will have an update for the most recent versions? What is needed? What do us Noobs do to get it to work?--ERoberts 13:58, 17 July 2008 (EDT)

I'm currently busy "in real life" with work so I can't tend to Tweak for the latest version of DF just yet. Aside from minor bugs with Tweak modules (such as the freezing bug with Tile Edit) there is no need for an update other than providing Tweak with data for the version you want to use it with. You can probably find the information needed for Tweak's XML files for the new version on Jifodus's user page. —Rick 05:20, 18 July 2008 (EDT)
Sorry its been a while since I've done this, do I still just put that info in a memory.ini file?
I've got something to do today, but if no one has done it yet, I'll try to get something available later tonight for people. --Corc 11:42, 18 July 2008 (EDT)