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== Glass Industry flowchart ==

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I apologize in advance for posting here my predicament, but this seemed like the only adequate place where I could post this without creating an account. 
 
So, my problem with the Glass Industry flowchart (and, overall, the Glass Industry page) is that it is somewhat misleading regarding the production of vials. Vials require sand, not "pure" glass, in order to be produced. I noticed that my dwarves complained a lot about not being able to produce vials although having tonnes of green glass. For all that it's worth, there isn't a page describing how a vial is made. Typing vial in the searchbox redirects me to the Flask page, where it erroneously (at least from this point of view) states that it is produced from glass. 
 
I'm not sure whether there are more items produced directly from sand, rather than producing the glass first. 
 
I thank you for the attention given to this problem. <small>&ndash; [[template:unsigned|unsigned]] comment by [[User:217.129.96.108|217.129.96.108]]</small>

:Indeed, most glass items in the current version (0.34.11) require a bag of sand instead of raw glass (such as glass purchased from caravans). In fact, that flowchart dates back to [[v0.31:Glass industry|the v0.31 article]], which seems to be outdated for the current version. [[User:Kydo]] was the creator of the original flowchart, but has been inactive for over 2 years. If it helps to avoid confusion, I could attempt to create a new one (although I can't guarantee perfection). --{{User:Lethosor/sig}} 00:59, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

::Well, I've refreshed the flowchart to match what the DF2012 process is. I was the guy that posted this in the first place, so it seems fit for me to care about the whole process.--[[User:Doktoro Reichard|Doktoro Reichard]] ([[User talk:Doktoro Reichard|talk]]) 04:19, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

:::Hello! I have returned! And I'm less of a jerk now! Ok, so, When I made that flow chart, I never actually tested any of it, I just built a glass furnace and made a few blocks after looking over its menu. Honestly, it took me a few read-throughs of that post to understand what the distinction really was. ("Made from sand means made of glass, therefore being made from glass is the same thing." Was my thought.) But, you are right, my flowchart is outdated. That new one sure is stylin', though! Reminds me of the Bulbapedia aesthetic! If you don't mind me doing so, I could rearrange your artistry for some visual clarity? (Also, my wiki-fu is a little rusty, please don't mind any repetitive re-editing of my own messages.) --Kydo 03:50, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
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	:::Hello! I have returned! And I'm less of a jerk now! Ok, so, When I made that flow chart, I never actually tested any of it, I just built a glass furnace and made a few blocks after looking over its menu. Honestly, it took me a few read-throughs of that post to understand what the distinction really was. ("Made from sand means made of glass, therefore being made from glass is the same thing." Was my thought.) But, you are right, my flowchart is outdated. That new one sure is stylin', though! Reminds me of the Bulbapedia aesthetic! If you don't mind me doing so, I could rearrange your artistry for some visual clarity? (Also, my wiki-fu is a little rusty, please don't mind any repetitive re-editing of my own messages.) --Kydo 03:50, 8 April 2014 (UTC)		:::Hello! I have returned! And I'm less of a jerk now! Ok, so, When I made that flow chart, I never actually tested any of it, I just built a glass furnace and made a few blocks after looking over its menu. Honestly, it took me a few read-throughs of that post to understand what the distinction really was. ("Made from sand means made of glass, therefore being made from glass is the same thing." Was my thought.) But, you are right, my flowchart is outdated. That new one sure is stylin', though! Reminds me of the Bulbapedia aesthetic! If you don't mind me doing so, I could rearrange your artistry for some visual clarity? (Also, my wiki-fu is a little rusty, please don't mind any repetitive re-editing of my own messages.) --Kydo 03:50, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
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−	::::Ok, I uploaded a reinterpretation of the former design, which shows the direct production of glass goods from raw base materials, has an overall downward flow, and maintains that spiffy style and generally more efficient layout from the previous version. Any comments? --Kydo 20:14, 8 April 2014 (UTC)