v0.34 Talk:Giant thrips

I wonder what the 7 is for in the resize. Do the extra seven cubic centimeters really matter? --Zzedar (talk) 03:44, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

They probably don't "matter" in-game, but a number like that is pretty uncommon. CHANGE_BODY_SIZE_PERC is the relevant tag in the raws, which happens to be 20000700 in this case. --Lethosor (talk) 12:41, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I understand that. I'm just wondering why Toady set that as the resize number.--Zzedar (talk) 15:02, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

No idea. It could just be a typo, or it could be intentional. I don't think the 7 would really make a difference, though. --Lethosor (talk) 17:11, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Resizing problem

There's something weird going on here with the size of these guys that I don't understand. The calculations in the infobox and by hand indicate that it should have a size of 200,007. And I can't find any error in those calculations. However, in the actual game, they are in fact ten times that size (if you don't believe this, try setting a pressure plate's weight trigger and then having one of these guys walk over it). I suspect there's something screwy going on here with the way vermin sizes are calculated; I'll have to check if other giant versions of vermin have similar weirdness.--Zzedar (talk) 03:37, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Are you sure this isn't ^Bug:982? --Lethosor (talk) 13:47, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Also, dfhack's tweak readable-build-plate might help. I can't really test it in my current forts since I haven't encountered any recently, but let me know if it changes anything. --Lethosor (talk) 13:56, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Pretty sure this has nothing to do with pressure plates -- I first discovered it by using DFHack to read body size directly, and only later verified it with pressure plates to double-check it wasn't a bug in DFHack. For that matter, check out the butchering returns -- compare them to the giant hamster, which should have about the same body size.--Zzedar (talk) 23:58, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Strange. It could be a raw problem. Here's what I got in the arena (with default creatures):

Giant Thrips

?
Biome
Any location
Cannot be tamed
Butchering returns
Food items
Meat	50
Fat	17
Raw materials

Giant Hamster

?
Biome
Any location
Cannot be tamed
Butchering returns
Food items
Meat	28
Fat	12
Raw materials
Bones	20
Skull	1
Teeth	0-2
Skin	Raw hide
Wool	6

I think this definitely shows a size difference, even though they should be about the same size. --Lethosor (talk) 00:56, 28 April 2013 (UTC)