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:::::So no current explanation for why a dwarf with an assigned bed would decide to sleep in his workshop. Anyone else got any explanations for this? --[[User:AlexChurchill|AlexChurchill]] 12:35, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::So no current explanation for why a dwarf with an assigned bed would decide to sleep in his workshop. Anyone else got any explanations for this? --[[User:AlexChurchill|AlexChurchill]] 12:35, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::::::Maybe he's working overtime, or simply can't be bothered to find his bed. Maybe the bed is too far away from him? --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 05:10, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::::::Maybe he's working overtime, or simply can't be bothered to find his bed. Maybe the bed is too far away from him? --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 05:10, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
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::::::Was the bed in question located within another room? I think I once had the problem that my dwarves would not sleep in beds that were standing in my bookkeeper's office.[[User:Qwertyu|Qwertyu]] 09:59, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
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::::::Maybe the bed was behind a locked door.[[User:Wagawaga|Wagawaga]] 21:31, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
  
 
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::::: We need a Chiropractor class to replace Fish Dissector. Then he can help cure spinal problems in dwarves. --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 07:04, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::::: We need a Chiropractor class to replace Fish Dissector. Then he can help cure spinal problems in dwarves. --[[User:AlexFili|AlexFili]] 07:04, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
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:::::: The Chiropractor is a named Giant Cave Spider, and resides at 1515 Throw the Dwarf in the Chasm Ave. -- [[User:Rkyeun|Rkyeun]] 09:33, 12 November 2008 (EST)
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::An injured dwarf will walk himself to his own bed to rest, but 'recover wounded' will cause the helping dwarf to put the injured dwarf in a "hospital" bed. So, yes. While hard to tell I also think they recover faster then. --[[User:Höhlenschreck|Höhlenschreck]] 13:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
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== Moving beds. ==
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How does one move a bed after it's been "built", i.e. after it's been produced but before it's been placed.  Sorry to ask such an idiotic question.
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:A bed will sit around in a [[stockpile]] until you place it.  To move it to a specific location, you can manipulate the stockpiles, or create a temporary dump [[zone]] to dump it in. --[[User:LegacyCWAL|LegacyCWAL]] 12:25, 28 February 2009 (EST)
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:Open the {{k|b}}uild menu choose {{k|b}}ed and choose where to place it.[[User:Wagawaga|Wagawaga]] 21:34, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
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Just to be clear, neither of these are answers to the question. If I make and place a bed in a bedroom, and later decide to blow out the bedroom and make a dining room, how do I get the bed out of there?
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:Use (Set Building Tasks/Prefs) and cursor over to the bed in question and select (x: Remove Building).  This will flag the bed for removal to a furniture stockpile.
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== Married Dwarves  ==
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When two Dwarves get married, I noted that the guy's room becomes the girl's room too. But do they sleep in the same bed together or do I need to make another bed?
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I ask this because above someone said that they don't go to sleep if there is someone in their bed.
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And what about children? (unsigned by [[user:Die Nacht]], 14:34, August 18, 2009)
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* Married dwarves ''will'' share a bed.  And according to this post: [http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=44893.msg873769#msg873769], family members will use additional beds in the same room, although I would like verification of this fact before it is added to the page.  [[User:Trorbes|Trorbes]] 22:07, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
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== Beds in a barracks ==
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Most of the time there needs to be more than 1 bed in a barracks. Also a barracks might have quite a few items in it any of which could be used to designate the room as a barracks.
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Beds which have not been designated as a room are "hospital beds".
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If I have three beds in a space, and that space has been designated as a barracks (say using a weapon rack in the corner of a physical room), are these beds "hospital beds" or "barracks beds"?
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<font face="FixedSys" color="#00FFFF">[[User:GarrieIrons|Gar]]</font>[[User Talk:GarrieIrons|rie]] 06:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
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:If the bed is in the space of the barracks, it's a barracks bed. [[User:Goffrie|Goffrie]] 23:20, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
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== Stone Bed ==
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I'm very new to this game, but one of my dwarfs got possessed and made a bed from stone. Is this some kind of bug, and will they use it like a normal bed? I really don't want my world to get bugged or crash or something.
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Here it is: http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1144/stonebed.jpg [[Special:Contributions/193.95.230.250|193.95.230.250]] 18:02, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
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:Artifacts can be made from materials that can't normally be used to make that type of item.  In most cases, this doesn't affect its usefulness (notable exceptions are weapons and armor, which are less effective if made from nonstandard materials, and anvils, which can't be used at all if made from a non-fire-safe material).  You can use your stone bed just like a regular bed, although it's probably best to save it for a [[noble]] because of the high value of artifacts.  --[[User:LaVacaMorada|LaVacaMorada]] 18:52, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
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== Movement ==
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I have a certain barracks design in mind that would place, say, three beds in an "L" fashion around a corner and a pillar hugging up against the corner they create: <BR>
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|B O
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B  = Bed
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O  = Pillar
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I'm concerned that the bed directly in the corner would not be accessible because of the two other beds blocking it. I think I've read that beds (and other furniture) don't block movement, so there should be no problem, but can anyone confirm that? Much thanks. --[[User:Bronzebeard|Bronzebeard]] 01:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
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:Beds do not block movement. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 02:51, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
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:: Dwarfs can move along the diagonal as well. [[Special:Contributions/76.20.35.236|76.20.35.236]] 14:43, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:27, 8 January 2012

Dwarves not using beds[edit]

What are the causes of dwarves not sleeping on beds? I've made beds and rooms for my dwarves yet they just go to sleep wherever they are when they get tired. Yvain 17:07, 5 March 2008 (EST)

Hunters never seem to use beds. If a dwarf can't afford a room when the economy is turned on, they'll sleep in a barracks, possibly on the floor there. Bouchart 19:38, 5 March 2008 (EST)

Thanks but this was a brand new fortress so no economy and it was all seven of them. And its still happening after getting first migrants. Yvain 23:48, 5 March 2008 (EST)

Did you assign each dwarf to a bed? Robje 09:27, 6 March 2008 (EST)

You usually don't need to assign beds, they'll claim them on their own, however sometimes it will take a few sleep cycles before they do. I think it works something like this - once a dwarf has a bed, he will strongly prefer sleeping there, and will walk the extra distance to it when he gets sleepy. However, if a dwarf without a bed gets sleepy, and is a long walk from any unclaimed beds, he'll just go "Eh, screw it." and sleep on the ground. --Erom 09:38, 6 March 2008 (EST)

But I've seen cases where a dwarf with an assigned bed just decides to sleep in his workshop, or even occasionally in the corridor. With the corresponding negative thoughts. Is there any way to tell dwarves to properly go to bed rather than just occasionally decide to sleep on the floor? --AlexChurchill 06:15, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
Usually that's because you don't have enough beds. Otherwise, just make sure theres lots of spare beds in the barracks. --AlexFili 07:09, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
Really? Just to be 100% sure: are you saying the amount of spare beds in barracks or bedrooms still matters, even if the dwarf in question has an assigned bed? --AlexChurchill 06:06, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
As far as I know, dwarves will usually seek beds with the following preference; Their own assigned bed, Unassigned bed (in bedroom), Barracks-owned bed, Beds that have been built but not assigned to any room, the floor. --AlexFili 07:02, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
So no current explanation for why a dwarf with an assigned bed would decide to sleep in his workshop. Anyone else got any explanations for this? --AlexChurchill 12:35, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
Maybe he's working overtime, or simply can't be bothered to find his bed. Maybe the bed is too far away from him? --AlexFili 05:10, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
Was the bed in question located within another room? I think I once had the problem that my dwarves would not sleep in beds that were standing in my bookkeeper's office.Qwertyu 09:59, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
Maybe the bed was behind a locked door.Wagawaga 21:31, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Occupied[edit]

It seems that dwarves will not sleep in their bed if another creature is standing on it when he 'gets sleepy'. I just started a new fortress and had temporary beds and meeting hall in the middle of a corridor. The dogs and such were standing on the beds, so 2 of my dwarves decided to sleep on the ground (they had claimed the beds last sleep cycle, and my entire fort is less than 2 screens big). --Juckto 17:42, 6 May 2008 (EDT)

Hospital beds?[edit]

It is confirmed that dwarves use "hospital" beds in the current version?

I've had a bed set up in an area which isn't a room, nor did I create a room defined by this bed, yet a recently-injured dwarf went to "rest" in his own, normal bed. He is being given food and water, though.

I'm not certain what you mean by "Hospital beds". However, injured dwarves that require rest will use any available bed that isn't assigned to someone else. This includes their personal bed, barracks beds, and other undesignated beds, likely in that order. --Edward 19:38, 24 May 2008 (EDT)
I mean exactly what the article says: "Toady has stated that beds which are not in any defined room are considered hospital beds, and dwarves will recover faster when sleeping on them." If dwarves recover more efficiently on these, you'd think dwarves would see them as higher-priority for resting than their own bed or a barracks bed. -- G-Flex 21:00, 29 May 2008 (EDT)
I've had dwarves with stately rooms opt for the old beds laying around in the dining room when they are injured. I don't know about recovery time though, it was a brainpan injury. A guy with a broken head just doesn't come back.--Dadamh 06:41, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
Heads? Those can heal just fine, as long as it's not the brain proper. The aforementioned dwarf had either a broken or mangled "head", a missing eye, and a bruised neck (which never healed due to it being technically a nervous system injury). The head got right back to normal status. G-Flex 04:33, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
We need a Chiropractor class to replace Fish Dissector. Then he can help cure spinal problems in dwarves. --AlexFili 07:04, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
The Chiropractor is a named Giant Cave Spider, and resides at 1515 Throw the Dwarf in the Chasm Ave. -- Rkyeun 09:33, 12 November 2008 (EST)
An injured dwarf will walk himself to his own bed to rest, but 'recover wounded' will cause the helping dwarf to put the injured dwarf in a "hospital" bed. So, yes. While hard to tell I also think they recover faster then. --Höhlenschreck 13:55, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Moving beds.[edit]

How does one move a bed after it's been "built", i.e. after it's been produced but before it's been placed. Sorry to ask such an idiotic question.

A bed will sit around in a stockpile until you place it. To move it to a specific location, you can manipulate the stockpiles, or create a temporary dump zone to dump it in. --LegacyCWAL 12:25, 28 February 2009 (EST)
Open the build menu choose bed and choose where to place it.Wagawaga 21:34, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


Just to be clear, neither of these are answers to the question. If I make and place a bed in a bedroom, and later decide to blow out the bedroom and make a dining room, how do I get the bed out of there?

Use (Set Building Tasks/Prefs) and cursor over to the bed in question and select (x: Remove Building). This will flag the bed for removal to a furniture stockpile.

Married Dwarves[edit]

When two Dwarves get married, I noted that the guy's room becomes the girl's room too. But do they sleep in the same bed together or do I need to make another bed?

I ask this because above someone said that they don't go to sleep if there is someone in their bed.

And what about children? (unsigned by user:Die Nacht, 14:34, August 18, 2009)

  • Married dwarves will share a bed. And according to this post: [1], family members will use additional beds in the same room, although I would like verification of this fact before it is added to the page. Trorbes 22:07, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Beds in a barracks[edit]

Most of the time there needs to be more than 1 bed in a barracks. Also a barracks might have quite a few items in it any of which could be used to designate the room as a barracks.

Beds which have not been designated as a room are "hospital beds".

If I have three beds in a space, and that space has been designated as a barracks (say using a weapon rack in the corner of a physical room), are these beds "hospital beds" or "barracks beds"?

Garrie 06:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

If the bed is in the space of the barracks, it's a barracks bed. Goffrie 23:20, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Stone Bed[edit]

I'm very new to this game, but one of my dwarfs got possessed and made a bed from stone. Is this some kind of bug, and will they use it like a normal bed? I really don't want my world to get bugged or crash or something. Here it is: http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/1144/stonebed.jpg 193.95.230.250 18:02, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Artifacts can be made from materials that can't normally be used to make that type of item. In most cases, this doesn't affect its usefulness (notable exceptions are weapons and armor, which are less effective if made from nonstandard materials, and anvils, which can't be used at all if made from a non-fire-safe material). You can use your stone bed just like a regular bed, although it's probably best to save it for a noble because of the high value of artifacts. --LaVacaMorada 18:52, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Movement[edit]

I have a certain barracks design in mind that would place, say, three beds in an "L" fashion around a corner and a pillar hugging up against the corner they create:

____
|B B
|B O
| _ = Wall
B   = Bed
O   = Pillar

I'm concerned that the bed directly in the corner would not be accessible because of the two other beds blocking it. I think I've read that beds (and other furniture) don't block movement, so there should be no problem, but can anyone confirm that? Much thanks. --Bronzebeard 01:20, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Beds do not block movement. --Quietust 02:51, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
Dwarfs can move along the diagonal as well. 76.20.35.236 14:43, 25 October 2010 (UTC)