Editing DF2014 Talk:Baron


== Trade Bug? ==

The caravan showed up, I started moving goods/broker, The liaison met with my manager before the caravan finished unloading, appointed the baron, and then the caravan was gone! In the future would it be best to lock away my manager until after the caravan leaves?

(user Disacorns, forgot to sign)

: Caravans spontaneously leaving are completely unrelated to liaison activity. The merchants leave instantly when one of their units gets killed, either a merchant, a draft or hauling animal, or a wagon (guards don't count). Wagons commonly break when their wagon-pullers get afraid and run away, which can happen for a variety of reasons.--[[User:Larix|Larix]] ([[User talk:Larix|talk]]) 21:07, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

: The caravan didn't leave, it vanished. Finished "peeking" on the conversation and it was gone. Checked the announcements, nothing.
[[User:Disacorns|Disacorns]] ([[User talk:Disacorns|talk]]) 22:01, 13 December 2014 (UTC)Disacorns

== What does a Baron do? ==

Newbie on my 2nd game, just got my first baron (someone inherited) so I've kitted out the office/etc, but I have no idea what benefit (if any) I get from having a baron? [[Special:Contributions/31.51.9.181|31.51.9.181]] 17:12, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

== If the baron dies ==

... you can still become the Mountainhome, and the king brings a baron with him (in this case the queen brought the king consort, who also became the baron). Remains to be seen whether you can go to count/duke. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:A210:80:E80:AC7A:A993:68DA:A0CE|2A02:A210:80:E80:AC7A:A993:68DA:A0CE]] 16:20, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

: My baron in my current fortress was killed before the fortress was elevated to a county or duchy.  For several years now the liaison has come and said "This land will be elevated to a [county or duchy, I don't remember]", and I even got a message later that said "[My Fortress] and the surrounding lands have been elevated to a [count/duchy] , but no new baron or duke is listed on my nobles screen.  My first baron appointed a Champion, and I've been unable to change this appointment since the baron's death.  If I look at the civilization screen for my fortress, it lists a dwarf that isn't part of my fortress as "baroness of [my fortress]/Merchant", so I guess one of the merchants is now the baroness of my fort.  So the baroness of my fortress exists in the world, she just isn't a member of my fort and as such can't perform local baroness duties (like appointing a new Champion).  I guess she somehow inherited the title from the previous baron.  And that's why I can't appoint a new baron: since someone already holds the title even if they don't live in my fortress.

: Also, I updated the main article with the information from the above comment that a baron arrives with the monarch in at least some situations, since that much is known from the comment, but the wiki could use more detailed info about whether a baron/count/duke always arrive with the monarch. -[[User:2128|2128]] ([[User talk:2128|talk]]) 20:01, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

:: The same fortress above became the mountainhome, but I think since I was near or over 200 population, only the queen, king consort, and outpost liaison arrived.  No landed nobility for me. --[[User:2128|2128]] ([[User talk:2128|talk]]) 20:16, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

== Demands if no item preferences? ==

If a baron has no item preferences, it's written in the main article that they won't issue any mandates, but can they still make demands even without item preferences?  And if they have no furniture preferences, will they just request some random piece of furniture?  And demand a random material if they have no material preferences? --[[User:2128|2128]] ([[User talk:2128|talk]]) 20:08, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

:A baron who likes clear glass (which is a material, not an item) may demand a "clear glass {$furniture}" (src:{{bugl|944}}), but will not mandate the production of "clear glass {$item}s" (since v0.34; src:{{bugl|2978}}). I suspect a baron with no preferences at all would make no demands, but that is a significantly different (and much less likely) scenario than the one stated in the article.--[[User:Loci|Loci]] ([[User talk:Loci|talk]]) 19:27, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

== Appears the holding requirements may have been removed as of .50 ==

Did some testing on a world in 50.03, and by setting the land holder + all economy trigger numbers to 1, my test fortress was eventually escalated to a barony and then a county the caravan after. The civ was unable to found new hillocks nearby due to the terrain requirement, and yet the nobility still happened. I'm pretty sure none of the customizable trigger numbers affect the old holding requirement, given none of them are at 1/4/9, just a few land holder numbers for the amount of population and production. Can anyone else confirm? Wanted to ask before actually editing -[[User:Celarious|Celarious]] ([[User talk:Celarious|talk]]) 12:44, 21 December 2022 (UTC)