Dwarf Fortress Wiki talk:Versions

What about {{version}}?

Did you have something like this in mind? category:version template:version (: VengefulDonut 21:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I did see that before and I think that's awesome as notes about particular items in an article, but it doesn't quite bring us to the two goals I hoped for here. It informs users about a statement but because of the difficulty (and undesirability) of labeling every statement in an article I think a single template per article can bring something different to the table. Mason11987 ^(T-C) 21:38, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Template:old is the same functionality but with a box. Is this what you need, or did you have something else in mind? VengefulDonut 21:43, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Much closer, I think a box for an article (maybe shifted to the top-right) is necessary for this, in order to provide the benefit of information for the user. A difference is I'd like this box to be on every article so that not only are articles labeled as out of date, but also as up to date. Most importantly I'm more about discussing the conceptual idea of this kind of organization, then we can devise an appropriate implementation. Mason11987 ^(T-C) 21:51, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

From what I've seen so far, it looks like what you want is a trivial step away from the things already in place. Is putting the box in the top right corner and putting one on every article the only difference? VengefulDonut 21:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Oh I'm not saying it's a fundemental change, but it's implementation will allow for the large project of updating after this big update of DF. There are some details I think should be part of this change:

• A box on every article stating if the article is up to date or not. If it's not, also stating up to what version it is up to date.
• A categorization scheme that follows like so:
  • If it's up to date, put in two categories: something like "up to date", and something like "version ______"
  • If it's not up to date, put it in two categories: something like "obsolete", and something like "version _____"

Each page should be able to just list the version it's updated as of, the template should determine whether "{{Version|40d}}" should end up in category "up to date" or category "obsolete". This should be done in such a way that when a new version comes out we can make a small change to the template and EVERY article will become "obsolete" and users can over time go through them and confirm that they are still up-to-date by changing the template to refer to the new version. I think this is the major aspect I'm proposing that isn't a trivial difference from the current method of organization and upkeep here. Do you get what I'm suggesting? If I thought it was a trival difference I would have just implemented it and asked what people thought, but this could be a very big deal if we go through with it. Mason11987 ^(T-C) 22:11, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Take a look at template:vcat. This is the template currently placed on all of the version category pages. It compares the version the category corresponds to with template:current/version and displays a message based on whether or not it matches. Is this the type of thing you want? VengefulDonut 22:16, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps use "New", "Old", and "Obsolete" markers? DF2010 is "New", 40d is "Old", and pre-40d is "Obsolete"? I like the idea of a small box up in the corner, and a category to group them. --Aescula 23:43, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I would want to make sure we don't get out of hand; new uses will be likely to ignore anything marked "Old" even if it continues to be accurate (nobody had verified it). Perhaps something like "This page is X releases old; some information may be changed" or something. Most releases don't change more than a few major areas (DF2010 is an exception because of the length of release, but even it won't be changing everything). I do think that something like this is VERY important for "tutorial" sections; a single key change could stymie a new user; and we'd lose them forever. --Bombcar 00:33, 1 March 2010 (UTC)