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| − | Had a thief show up, and sent the 4 closest dwarves to KILL him - untrained, unarmed, plus a (untrained) dog. After ''four days'' of tag team action, with the gobbo delivering various wounds to the group, they finally bruised him into an early grave. I had saved the part where the thief arrived, so I ran it a few more times - each time uglier than the next. Red wounds, one lost hand - and each time, days and days for the gobbo to succumb. | + | Had a thief show up, and sent the 4 closest dwarves to KILL him - untrained, unarmed, plus a (untrained) dog. After ''four days'' of tag team action, with the gobbo delivering various wounds to the group, they finally bruised him into an early grave. I had saved the part where the thief arrived, so I ran it a few more times - each time uglier than the next. Red wounds, one lost hand - and each time, days and days for the gobbo to succumb. {{L|wound|Cyan}} lungs/heart/kidneys/etc, every body part yellow or red, and he would still crawl toward the map edge. I guess 4 untrained adults (and the family dog) against one psychotic child armed with a bowie knife is not as good as one might have hoped. |
On the Skill front, one dwarf went from No Skill to Competent Fighter and Wrestler (and Dabbling Striker) - seems that Skill is now more important than anything else (like size or numbers).--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 23:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC) | On the Skill front, one dwarf went from No Skill to Competent Fighter and Wrestler (and Dabbling Striker) - seems that Skill is now more important than anything else (like size or numbers).--[[User:Albedo|Albedo]] 23:52, 19 April 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:I thought I remembered friendly fire from before. I think it's a function of skill... if they are very good, they always hit the target and nothing else; if they are pretty lousy, the trajectories may include other creatures or obstacles. Cannot confirm, though. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 01:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC) | :I thought I remembered friendly fire from before. I think it's a function of skill... if they are very good, they always hit the target and nothing else; if they are pretty lousy, the trajectories may include other creatures or obstacles. Cannot confirm, though. --[[User:Zombiejustice|Zombiejustice]] 01:12, 12 May 2010 (UTC) | ||
| − | + | == Too Much Realism can lead to Unrealistic combat == | |
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In my recent tests using different weapons in adventure mode, I have found many areas of combat that are just plain crazy. | In my recent tests using different weapons in adventure mode, I have found many areas of combat that are just plain crazy. | ||
It seems that blunt weapons never cause bleeding even if they "jam the bone through the..."(apparently only the heart) Against some enemies (grimelings come to mind) blunt weapons are totally useless. I did have a mace and hammer tear a hole in the heart after smashing a rib through it but usually blunt weapons only provide kills when they "smash the skull jamming it through the brain". | It seems that blunt weapons never cause bleeding even if they "jam the bone through the..."(apparently only the heart) Against some enemies (grimelings come to mind) blunt weapons are totally useless. I did have a mace and hammer tear a hole in the heart after smashing a rib through it but usually blunt weapons only provide kills when they "smash the skull jamming it through the brain". | ||
My last adventurer was torn apart by alligators. Now I can understand being shaken around by a leg or arm or torso but this alligator had me by the middle finger of my left hand, there should be a tag that says 'this appendage is too small to shake someone around by instead just sever it if that happens.' I'd rather lose a finger than a fight. | My last adventurer was torn apart by alligators. Now I can understand being shaken around by a leg or arm or torso but this alligator had me by the middle finger of my left hand, there should be a tag that says 'this appendage is too small to shake someone around by instead just sever it if that happens.' I'd rather lose a finger than a fight. | ||
| − | Here's my subjective list of the relative strength of weapons. Basically cutting is the only good way to kill someone. Bashing takes forever. | + | Here's my subjective list of the relative strength of weapons. Basically cutting is the only good way to kill someone. Bashing takes forever. |
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