Template talk:Navbox

Full width

I propose increasing the navbox's width to extend from its current 60% page width to fully extending across the page, as it traditionally is on other wikis. I can help w/ readability issues due to compactness and reduce scrolling. The same change would be made to Template:Gamedata, likewise.

60% width example
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100% width example
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– Doorkeeper 04:53, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

I'm ok with it for this template, but I feel {{gamedata}} would be too wide (it's typically used for text that's at most 80-100 columns wide, although that's not a hard limit by any means). I'm not an expert on readability, but I know some people consider 100% "too wide" for some things, so maybe a maximum width for this template could still be good to have. In any case, you're welcome to experiment as far as I'm concerned. —Lethosor (talk) 05:13, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

I agree. Also not sure where 60% came from in the first place, seems like an arbitrary number which would result in markedly different results on 1366x768 and 2560x1440 res screens. Otherwise user experience is very subjective, you can't please everyone, hell I even have different preference based on what device I use! So in this i'd side with the wisdom of the crowd, if 100% width works for most on Wikipedia its good enough for us.--Jan (talk) 23:25, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

I took several days experimenting and considering. I actually prefer how the raw text is placed on the left side instead of the center. Because text generally starts at the far-left, it feels more natural to read. The expanded width also prevents side-scrolling more often. I wanted gamedata's width to align with the width of the navbox so they wouldn't look weird when stacked together, though they don't need to be stuck together, that's just something I did when redesigning the templates. I like the stacked boxes layout.

I've set both widths to 100% just now. let me know your thoughts. We can revert it if there's an uproar, of course, but I genuinely think it's better than before. I took your advice and added a max-width to both, set to 100em (which is over the page's width size at 1366x768 resolution). – Doorkeeper 23:16, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

I forgot to mention, there could be visual issues from the change. I had to re-align the Races list in the Creatures navbox for instance, so be on the look out. I'm already going over the nav templates again. – Doorkeeper 23:21, 22 March 2022 (UTC)