Editing 40d Talk:Fire snake

== Fire snakes and cats ==

My cats seem to ignore the fire snakes. This makes me kind of scared.
Are they just busy doing other things, or are fire snakes cat-immune? [[User:Tardface|Tardface]] 13:19, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

:Cats ignore fire snakes.  Probably because they're too hot to bite, what with being filled with liquid fire and all. -Dkarrde

::Some people declare otherwise.  I, personally, am of no help here. Never had areas frequented by cats also frequented by fire snakes.
::It seems that cats are usually busy around fire snakes.  Not that they are immune.  Vaguely recall dead fire snake. --[[User:Zchris13|Zchris13]] 17:51, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
:::In my game, at least, they go completely ignored.  I have at least thirty cats and constantly find dead vermin of every kind around my booze and food piles, ''except'' fire snakes, which populate the area because my fort is built around a magma pipe.  The fire snakes rampage through my stuff unhindered while cats blither about.  I've had to employ dedicated trappers to try to limit the barrel/bin destruction.  -Dkarrde
::::I lost an entire fortress to a fire snake. Bugger set one of my cats on fire, who still had the fire snake remains in his mouth when he finally died. -- [[User:RomeoFalling|RomeoFalling]] 08:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

== moved from Liquid Fire discussion page ==

Okay, well I've just seen some fire snakes on the map, so I'll give a whirl at trying to catch them and extract some Liquid Fire from them, but if anybody has any info on this process already, this page is conspicuously absent. --[[User:RomeoFalling|RomeoFalling]] 23:00, 4 November 2008 (EST)
: It worked for me - build an [[animal trap]], leave in animal/cage stockpile, assign "Capture animal" as a task in the [[Kennels]] menu, and dwarves with Trapping enabled should set to work. Either that or build the trap on the edge of the magma vent and bait it with meat. With a [[fire snake]] trapped, set task "Extract from a small dead animal" in the [[Butcher]]y menu. I think you need a vial or [[flask]] available to catch the squeezed snake drippings. We can still only speculate whether Liquid Fire is a potent venom for dipping arrowheads, or suitable for mixing into cocktails, because it's only a trade good for now. Also, I think [[vermin]]ious fire snakes were finding ways to burn their way out of wooden cages, and burning sandbags(!) leaving piles of sand. --[[User:Jellyfishgreen|Jellyfishgreen]] 13:01, 5 November 2008 (EST)

:: One of my kittens mysteriously caught on fire, so I'm assuming fire snakes can burn things. I've built an iron trap and am placing it next to the only path from the magma into my fortress. If fire snakes can set things on fire, that should go in the wiki somewhere. Any suggestions as to where? --[[User:RomeoFalling|RomeoFalling]] 18:58, 5 November 2008 (EST)

:::OMG!  [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=NEDM NEDM]!  Dwarf Fortress just blows my mind sometimes.

:::Looking at the raws again, fire snakes have a FIXED_TEMP of 14000.  According to [[temperature scale]], this means they have a body temperature of 4000 degrees Fahrenheit.  That's actually higher even than bauxite's melting temperature.  I am suddenly ''damn'' glad I didn't put my booze stockpile right next to the magma pipe.  Though the explosion would have been awesome.  Confusing, but awesome.  

:::I do have an ore stockpile there, and I've seen fire snakes darting around it.  I guess it takes a while before the heat transfer causes melting, 'cause I've never seen melted ore there.  Yet.--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 00:01, 6 November 2008 (EST)

:::Oh, and they are also the only creatures with [IMMOLATE].  The fun never stops.--[[User:Maximus|Maximus]] 00:12, 6 November 2008 (EST)

I think it would be a fantastic inclusion if liquid fire could be loaded a unit at a time into traps that exploded and caught victims on fire when triggered. --[[User:SquidDNA|SquidDNA]] 14:51, 27 May 2009 (UTC)


== Value of Liquid Fire==
My extraction seems always to produce 5 units at 100☼ each per snake/vial, for a value of 500, not 1000.  Can anyone else explain the 1000 price?  Older version, maybe?  The only way I get 1000 is if you include a vial worth 500.  --[[User:Oddrune|Oddrune]] 06:39, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

==Extraction==
After being extracted, my liquid fire seems to stay in the vials and never gets transferred into barrels (for storage in an appropriate food stockpile). Do I need suitably fireproof barrels, or is the storage of extracts within barrels something that only other civilizations are capable of doing (similar to milking large animals)? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 01:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC)q
:It's not meant to be stored in barrels. It will stay in vials, which can be placed in bins.--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 09:06, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
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 :::In my game, at least, they go completely ignored.  I have at least thirty cats and constantly find dead vermin of every kind around my booze and food piles, ''except'' fire snakes, which populate the area because my fort is built around a magma pipe.  The fire snakes rampage through my stuff unhindered while cats blither about.  I've had to employ dedicated trappers to try to limit the barrel/bin destruction.  -Dkarrde
 ::::I lost an entire fortress to a fire snake. Bugger set one of my cats on fire, who still had the fire snake remains in his mouth when he finally died. -- [[User:RomeoFalling|RomeoFalling]] 08:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
-:::::Cats definitely do NOT go after fire snakes in 40D16.  Removing the whole list of [NOWHATEVER] tags below its prefstring makes them kill fire snakes though, most likely its [NOBLEED] or [NOBREATHE] that prevents the cat from killing it  -[o_O]WTFace
-:::::Doesn't stop dwarves who hate fire snakes from eating them, though. They don't seem to catch fire from it, which is puzzling.
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 After being extracted, my liquid fire seems to stay in the vials and never gets transferred into barrels (for storage in an appropriate food stockpile). Do I need suitably fireproof barrels, or is the storage of extracts within barrels something that only other civilizations are capable of doing (similar to milking large animals)? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 01:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC)q
 :It's not meant to be stored in barrels. It will stay in vials, which can be placed in bins.--[[User:Dorten|Dorten]] 09:06, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
-::Then why do food stockpiles accept liquid fire? --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 04:27, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
-==Animal Traps==
-I built an animal trap in the hallway leading to the magma, and it caught a fire snake without any bait in it. I don't know if this is a common enough occurrence to merit mentioning in the article itself. -- [[User:RomeoFalling|RomeoFalling]] 08:44, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
-:I just had something rather surprising happen - I ordered my trapper to "catch live land animal", so he grabbed my artifact clear glass animal trap and spotted a fire snake. Once he caught it, I got a yellow message "live fire snake has burned its way out of confinement!" and he dropped the animal trap (with the fire snake slithering away). I've caught hundreds of fire snakes in baited gem/bone/shell animal traps and had to recapture one using this method once, though I've never had this happen before... --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 04:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
-::Shortly afterwards, he managed to successfully catch the same fire snake in an exceptional bronze animal trap. All subsequent attempts to catch additional fire snakes in the glass trap have failed - seems it doesn't consider glass to be sufficiently fireproof. --[[User:Quietust|Quietust]] 04:52, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
-:::Using wood traps seems to be fine for the moment. It may just be glass that is an issue. Captured a fire snake through the kennel using a Maple animal trap.--[[User:DracoG|DracoG]] 20:50, 6 October 2009 (UTC)