40d Talk:Food

Rate of consumption

Does anyone know the rate at which dwarf eats food? --Okita 01:18, 6 June 2008 (EST)

Someone calculated it way back in the 2D days. IIRC, they came up with 6 food and 18 drink per dwarf per year, but I don't think that was very accurate. --Savok 08:49, 16 June 2008 (EDT)

Starvation

Once my butcher starts hunting for small creatures - how do I get him to actually slaughter an animal so everyone can eat? Or do I need to make someone else a butcher so my butcher can have a snack?

Why does this shite always happen when the merchant turns up?? ;) GarrieIrons 07:36, 13 February 2008 (EST)

This is beacause your dwarves are very hungry and start looking for vermin to eat. Hoborobo 02:48, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

Hunger bug

First of all, i'm a new user, so if this needs putting somewhere else or whatever, just send me an e-mail or something. Anyway, I have a bug that keeps crippling my fortress. Sometime halfway through the year, my dwarfs (dwarves? i dunno :S) stop eating. completely. they then get hungry, tantrums kick off, and chaos ensues. any tips? --Shabang50 05:34, 1 March 2008 (EST)

Do you have food? If so, what KIND of food? They can't eat raw dead things, and they can't even eat butchered dead things. They also can't eat most kinds of uncooked fish. Also, did you make a food stockpile? Food left outside of a food stockpile will mass rot before long. --Shadow archmagi 06:20, 1 March 2008 (EST)

Yep, I have plenty of edible food ( non-rotten, stockpiled, etc). The food is definetly edible, but the dwarfs, after a while, jsut lose the will to eat! they still keep drinking, though ;)--Shabang50 12:55, 7 March 2008 (EST)

Meals

Do Roasts fill up dwarves more than biscuits? It seems logical that they would but I'm not sure. Also, do roasts take longer to eat? --Niaba 00:20, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

AFAIK, no. And it's not logical. Suppose you take 2 units of meat to make two bisquits, or four units of meat to make four roasts. Why would roasts be any larger?--Dorten 00:25, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Oh yeah... Well, then what's the advantage of making biscuits over roasts? Am I missing something?--Niaba 04:39, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

None. With roast you get bigger meal stacks that are more likely to not fit in barrels - good cos you save barrels. You have a higher chance per meal that you please the preference of a dwarf. You have half the number of items - less clutter. Some people claim that the cook collects more experience from easy meals since he cooks more, but i cant confirm. --Koltom 10:41, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

A cook gets 30xp per meal, not depending on the size. That's been on the wiki since late 2006.

It might've not been written into the new wiki yet, though. --Savok 11:55, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

let's see - if you combine [info on DF] with [2006] what do you get? ;) --Koltom 15:31, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Ok, thanks for clearing it up.--Niaba 16:59, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Meal Value

I was just wondering if anyone has done any research into how the value of prepared meals is calculated. I was somewhat curious because in my current fort I happened to notice that two stacks of masterpiece roasts were created of value 544☼ and 164☼, neither of which values is divisible by 12 (the masterpiece value modifier). In the case of both roasts, all the ingredients were plump helmet spawns. Also, how is overall meal quality decided? I had previously assumed that it was the highest quality out of the individual ingredient qualities, but in the case of the 544☼ meal all four ingredients were superiorly minced. I know that having a high quality ingredient in amongst low quality ingredients does bump up the overall quality, as with the 164☼ meal, which was 1 masterfully minced and 3 finely minced ingredients. Also, another oddity that I've just noticed: I got another "masterpiece" message, and took a look. "☼Plump helmet spawn roast [4]☼ This is a stack of 4 superiorly prepared Plump helmet spawn roast." I didn't see what the other two said, so perhaps the value is based off the description overall quality rather than the item name symbol quality?--Morlark 00:32, 23 June 2008 (EDT)

Ok, so I managed to answer my own question by looking up the Item value page. Never mind then.--Morlark

Question about the Z screen

When I press "z", and go into the menu, it tells me my food stores are well over 500. However, I am very low on meat, fish, and plants. The only category which has a high number is "other". What type of food is considered "other"? Is it cooked/prepared food? Any help would be great.

Cooked food is in the "other" category.Dangerous Beans 08:51, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

Fat and tallow fall under the "other". :) I had a hunter who was also my bookkeeper and he steadily brought in a Muskox or two each day (legendary skills and all. If he ran out of bullets, he could club an ox several squares down the map with his crossbow). I didn't realize just how much fat I'd piled up a few years later... and there's not much you can do other than render it (I'm not all that big on soap) or cook it. -Fuzzy 01:22, 2 October 2008 (EDT)

Rots where, exactly?

I've had prepared meals rot inside a kitchen indoors but have never seen prepared foot rot outdoors as long as it's been stockpiled - even outside of a barrel. Maybe some research should be done as to where it rots...? --GreyMaria 20:22, 1 October 2008 (EDT)