40d Talk:Workshop

proposed content

Maybe something about what the workshops actually do? --Mizipzor 13:39, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

move Workshops to Workshop

Should this page's title be singluar, in keeping with the rules on the community portal?--BahamutZERO 15:31, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Probably, if we choose to keep it. However, I'm thinking that this page should really just be a redirect to Category:Workshops. But not until we make sure that all the content here is also in the individual workshop pages. --Peristarkawan 15:35, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Too bad we can't get the hotkeys in the Category--Vaevictus 15:57, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Do we need them? There's a perfectly good list of workshops with their hotkeys in the game itself. --Peristarkawan 16:04, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

We could add the shortcut key to that little template thingy on the right. --Mizipzor 21:25, 4 November 2007 (EST)

Either A: We will put many of the workshop descriptions on this page and have those workshop names redirect here, or B: We will delete this page and have any info on this page on the workshop pages.
The old wiki had two sections as an introduction to workshops for newbies, a very brief list of the workshops and what they did, and a list of the workshop walls created by each workshop. Since the two sections would belong in a newbie tutorial page, and the descriptions of the workshops would belong in the workshop pages, workshop needs a {{del}}. --Savok 22:47, 4 November 2007 (EST)

We should make one page for each workshop, add them to category:workshops and {{del}} this page. --Mizipzor 08:12, 6 November 2007 (EST)

Ive made siege workshop and marked that section of the article with strikout. When all sections are marked like this, the page is ready to be made into a redirect to category:workshops. --Mizipzor 05:27, 7 November 2007 (EST)

Material/objects for building workshops

Should it really be labelled "Materials needed to build" - in all cases except the fishery there they are actually objects. Perhaps a 'can be built out of' and 'objects required to build'? --Matryx 05:41, 5 November 2007 (EST)

Someone has detailed that 'still' is short for 'distillery'. This is partially incorrect as a still is actually a completely different word and has a different meaning. A distillery is a an entire establishment (industrial plant and works for example) for distilling things (particularly alcohol) - whereas a still is an apparatus (usually heating/vapour cooling) which would be used inside a distillery to produce alcohol. --Matryx 06:50, 6 November 2007 (EST)

Production Image

Cheese is missing, as is anything to do with pre-thread silk. Additionally, the chain after thread is inconsistent with the rest of the diagram. --Edward 03:22, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

I updated the image to include silk, cheese is already included in food, although it's not quite clear. I am just afraid that naming individual food items is going to create a huge mess. Not sure what you mean that the chain after thread is inconsistent Aeolist 05:47, 22 June 2008 (EDT)

Workshop Design

Does it strike anyone else as odd that we have a Bedroom Design page that's a few thousand words and 18 images strong, but not so much as a sentence on workshop design? We should add an extra section to this page discussing that. If it gets too large, it can be moved to its own page, but for the moment keeping things consolidated is probably best.

The rest of this post will be a first draft for the section. Please keep comments and discussion in indented (use : at the beginning of your post) lines just below this comment, and out of the drafted article. --ThunderClaw 10:28, 10 October 2008 (EDT)

In regards to kitchens/butcher shops, whenever possible, I use the "miasma won't go through diagonals" trick instead of doors. Otherwise, you wind up with doors that get stuck open due to pets, items, etc. It gets even worse if your item hauling falls behind and you have to deconstruct a workshop to get its contents to be stockpiled (important if you have spoilable items) and hauled off (Dump and/or funneling stockpiles), resulting in the 4x4 explosion of stacked items. Depending on your point of view, exploting the diagonals may constitute a cheat and it does create a (fairly minimal) space impact adding that off-true wall. Nevertheless, I'm glad to see this article. Getting my workshops running efficiently is one of my biggest bugaboos so far. -Fuzzy 13:08, 10 October 2008 (EDT)

For miasma in butcher's shops, I usually use a vent and place the butcher's shop in the vent area. Each butchering operation leaves behind a bunch of chunks that stunk up my shops far too frequently. With kitchens, miasma is only an occasional problem, so I would go for the doors as well, if the kitchen is emitting miasma its probably too late to salvage the contents. -CptFastbreak 20:20, 10 October 2008 (CET)

Truthfully, the way I usually deal with that stuff is to make sure the kitchens and butcheries are on the top floor, then channel a smokestack up to the surface to make the center hex of the workshop "outside", so I never thought of it too closely. Throw a quick wall around it to keep enemies out and you'll never even produce miasma. Anyway, I've yet to see a hauling breakdown with the decentralized idea I've been using for the last 6 fortresses, so I have trouble commenting on that. If you can, perhaps you might consider adding a note on their causes and effects in the key considerations? --ThunderClaw 14:25, 10 October 2008 (EDT)

This has fallen off the recent 50 and is therefore extremely unlikely to get any more comments. Thus, I'm going to add it to the article. --ThunderClaw 16:41, 11 October 2008 (EDT)

Redo the production chain image?

I think it could do with cleanup and color. --GreyMaria 21:12, 13 October 2008 (EDT)

Re: Workshop Design: Gairabad's shameless self-promotion

I added a bunch of stuff to my user page on workshop layout design. Gairabad 21:17, 28 November 2008 (EST)

Can workshop dwarves haul multiple items at once?

If a dwarf in a workshop is doing a job requiring multiple materials, will he take one trip to pick up all the materials or multiple trips? Does the weight of the materials factor in at all? I'm pretty sure I've seen smelting dwarves take multiple trips. Gairabad 00:47, 16 December 2008 (EST)

They will always take multiple trips. Weight may only effect how fast those trips are. --Squirrelloid 04:41, 16 December 2008 (EST)